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Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:23 pm I'm waiting for the outcome of Fux v Binface.

I can think of one or two people of my acquaintance who will vote for the former, because "woke".

Boiler wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 4:26 pm This is unacceptable on just about every level.

Look forward to seeing those guys IDd.

A piece of good news; the blue wall has been breached in Cambridgeshire where the Tories have lost overall control. Lib Dems and Labour both made gains and its most likely due to younger demographics being priced out of Cambridge. I doubt its farmers having change of heart over habits of a lifetime but Libs were strong in the Fens before UKIP became the dustbin vote of choice.

Proud to live in Glasgow



Only 46 Cunts voted here.

Labour seeing some decent results in Wales.

They have lost one but some increases in marginals and not so marginals.

mattomac wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:41 pm Labour seeing some decent results in Wales.

They have lost one but some increases in marginals and not so marginals.

Seen increases across what is termed its “red wall”.

Said it before in 2017 and 2019 and I'll say it again - to beat the Tory shithouse you need to fight dirty, not just the gloves off but also make no apologies for taking shots to their balls if it needs to be. Starmer to me comes across as a decent man with what should be the right way of going about issues, but that resonates little with a post-reality TV electorate that loves being fed shit and told they'll enjoy it.

Spoonman wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 6:06 pm Said it before in 2017 and 2019 and I'll say it again - to beat the Tory shithouse you need to fight dirty, not just the gloves off but also make no apologies for taking shots to their balls if it needs to be. Starmer to me comes across as a decent man with what should be the right way of going about issues, but that resonates little with a post-reality TV electorate that loves being fed shit and told they'll enjoy it.

That's true as well.

Yeah I remember Andy Burnham’s anger and I expect he will smash it when the results come out, I think Starmer need that otherwise he needs to stand aside.

mattomac wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 5:41 pm Labour seeing some decent results in Wales.

They have lost one but some increases in marginals and not so marginals.

Yep. Pleased to see Plaid beaten in South Wales, because being attacked from both sides is difficult. Shame they couldn't win Aberconwy from the Tories. Glad they won Yns Mon which the Tories won in 2019 at Westminster.

mattomac wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 7:23 pm Yeah I remember Andy Burnham’s anger and I expect he will smash it when the results come out, I think Starmer need that otherwise he needs to stand aside.

I think Burnham could be got into Westminster by 2024, if Starmer doesn't improve.

Metro mayoralty seems like a useful thing for an aspiring politician. Executive experience (say what you like about Johnson being London mayor for 8 years beats having been on Haringey Housing Committee in the seventies) but also a fresh outsider. Labour struggles with the perception it's anti-business (among other things). Burnham can say "I got out there, I got investment in".

Labour is making gains throughout Kent. Even in Tory wards with a transferred UKIP vote, Labour has increased its vote share. I’m guessing a growing younger commuter demographic priced out of London.

Labour held its own in Brexit Barnsley too. Cpuld the difference be spaffer spaffed the money in Teeside?

Didn’t lose a seat in Nandy’s Wigan seat either.

Another one who might be promoted more.

Tories lost 8 seats in Cambridgeshire. Lib Dems up 5. Is that a Lib Dem "we want new houses but not there" thing, or something better?

Labour down 8 in Sunderland, losing to Lib Dems and Tories. Not very good. Not so much vote buying in Sunderland as Teesside, I don't think.

Lab won 14-8 on the Wolverhampton seats (admittedly down 5 seats, but not Teesside by any means).

No losses in Rochdale either.

One loss in Hull to Lib Dems. Tories lost one to them too.

Free port not working magic there.

Interesting to note some quite mixed results

They lost 3 in Liverpool but considering what happened that’s pretty poor for the opposition parties. Sefton, Labour took 6 including 2 in Southport and one in Birkdale (basically the poshest area alongside Formby of Sefton) that one was a shock.

Bury, Blackburn and Oldham they also kept losses down, you wonder how much effect Burnham had.

The Lancashire area bar Bolton seems to holding fair for Labour.

Oldham and Blackburn have high Asian populations, which might help Labour. Then again, I thought the Tories might be doing better than before with Asian Brexiters.

Tories still in majority in Gloucestershire (of 2) but lost 3 seats. Not a particularly Brexitty county, Gloucestershire. I suppose that's a fair result for the Tories.