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Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:39 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Phillips has a target on her back thanks to Musk and the government is no where to be seen.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:50 pm
by Oboogie
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 7:39 pm Phillips has a target on her back thanks to Musk and the government is no where to be seen.
What is it that would like the government to do exactly?

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:00 pm
by Abernathy

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:03 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Put out a statement condeming Musk in no uncertain terms and making it clear he cannot dictate to this country. Call on MPs across the spectrum to call this out and make it clear we will take action against X if he persists.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:24 pm
by Oboogie
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:03 pm Put out a statement condeming Musk in no uncertain terms and making it clear he cannot dictate to this country. Call on MPs across the spectrum to call this out and make it clear we will take action against X if he persists.
Obviously you're not going to get support across the spectrum, there are plenty on Right and Left who are in full support of Musk. But even if such a statement did have universal support what do you hope that will achieve?

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:33 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I'm not sure who on the left supports Musk but something more forceful than Streeting's offer to work with him.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 9:40 pm
by Youngian
Don't know what to think as to what moves to make. The only precedent that springs to mind is Robert Mugabe making nutty claims about cabinet ministers being Peter Tatchell's lovers. But that crazy old coot wasn't leading a superpower so you could afford to ignore him.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:03 pm
by satnav
Musk talking shit isn't the problem, the problem is when news outlets like Sky News and the Daily Mail amplify his comments rather than challenging them.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:37 pm
by Oboogie
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:33 pm I'm not sure who on the left supports Musk but something more forceful than Streeting's offer to work with him.
You're on Twitter, take a look. Jess Phillips is a hate figure for the Corbynistas - she threatened to murder Jeremy, she racially abused Diane Abbott, she's a War Criminal, a Tory and an Islamophobe...hell she's almost as evil as Starmer. Some of them would be celebrating openly if somebody stabbed her.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2025 11:24 pm
by kreuzberger
The muskrat seems to have dialled it down against Germany, just as quickly as he dialled it up. Dunno why that is yet, but the back-story is bound to leak, sooner or later.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 1:42 pm
by davidjay
Oboogie wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 10:37 pm
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 03, 2025 8:33 pm I'm not sure who on the left supports Musk but something more forceful than Streeting's offer to work with him.
You're on Twitter, take a look. Jess Phillips is a hate figure for the Corbynistas - she threatened to murder Jeremy, she racially abused Diane Abbott, she's a War Criminal, a Tory and an Islamophobe...hell she's almost as evil as Starmer. Some of them would be celebrating openly if somebody stabbed her.
As we've seen on here before, there's no-one - Musk, Trump, Farage, Pol Pot - who the Cult of St Jeremy wouldn't support against Labour politicians who win elections.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:57 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Good idea here on how to take a stand against Musk.

https://takes.jamesomalley.co.uk/p/odds ... eird-thing
[T]here is an obvious thing that government could do now and that requires no legislation and costs no money: government could simply shift all the material it currently puts out on X to another platform or platforms (BlueSky and Mastodon being the obvious contenders, neither being under the control of a Silicon Valley billionaire1). That would in turn encourage all the users of X who currently use X to monitor government activity (journalists, businesses, many ordinary citizens) to open and use accounts on those competing platforms. That effect would be magnified if Labour MPs - and indeed all MPs and other public figures concerned about X’s conduct - did the same: and if government gave a lead, no doubt many others would follow.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:07 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Mastodon?

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:33 pm
by Abernathy
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 7:07 pm Mastodon?
It’s another alternative to TwitterX. Not quite as good as Blue Sky. Local and regionally based servers feeding into a wider (inter)national network. But also not the open sewer that TwitterX is.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:40 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I know what it is, I was expressing surprise that anyone posts there any more!

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:51 pm
by kreuzberger
It's shite and nonsensically complicated. Unlike bsky, which is just a wee bit worthy and a bigger bit dull.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 12:40 am
by mattomac
I moved off twitter/X completely….

I’ve not missed it, though I have missed “fury” over Sandwiches.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 1:35 am
by davidjay
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:57 pm Good idea here on how to take a stand against Musk.

https://takes.jamesomalley.co.uk/p/odds ... eird-thing
[T]here is an obvious thing that government could do now and that requires no legislation and costs no money: government could simply shift all the material it currently puts out on X to another platform or platforms (BlueSky and Mastodon being the obvious contenders, neither being under the control of a Silicon Valley billionaire1). That would in turn encourage all the users of X who currently use X to monitor government activity (journalists, businesses, many ordinary citizens) to open and use accounts on those competing platforms. That effect would be magnified if Labour MPs - and indeed all MPs and other public figures concerned about X’s conduct - did the same: and if government gave a lead, no doubt many others would follow.
Normally I wouldn't want the fash to go unchallenged on any platform but in the same way the government doesn't post on Stormfront they shouldn't bother with Twitter either.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 9:43 am
by RedSparrows
kreuzberger wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 8:51 pm It's shite and nonsensically complicated. Unlike bsky, which is just a wee bit worthy and a bigger bit dull.
Lord BlueSky is worthy. I appreciate it being a place free of Blue tick mentalists, but it could do with a little less attention farming banality.

I suppose that's social media, though, once you get past (!) the vile.

Re: Jess Phillips

Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2025 10:18 am
by Killer Whale
Farage mealy-mouthed about Musk this morning.

It's becoming pretty clear that the far right will not be satisfied until the government comes out with an explicit statement that all pakis are nonces and all nonces are pakis.