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NevTheSweeper wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:23 pm Starmer has not only destroyed the Labour party, but he is also on track to destroying the country.

Is there a special prize if he manages it in less than 14 years?

Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:58 pm

NevTheSweeper wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:23 pm Starmer has not only destroyed the Labour party, but he is also on track to destroying the country.

Is there a special prize if he manages it in less than 14 years?

I'm still waiting for my fifty quid.

Some interesting polling here. Rather undermines the idea that Labour's majority is as fragile as some are saying. Lots of potential tactical support for Labour out there if Reform are the main challenger.

NevTheSweeper wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:23 pm It's getting increasingly difficult for Labour's client journalists to defend this government. The latest scandal involves Starmer, his wife, and fellow cabinet ministers accepting freebies. Why? They rightly criticised the Conservatives in opposition for doing it, now they've been caught out in the media for doing exactly the same thing in power. Barely three months into government, there is a huge perception by both a majority of the public and political commentators, that those in charge of the Labour administration seem completely clueless about how to govern the country. Starmer has not only destroyed the Labour party, but he is also on track to destroying the country.

Whatever it is you're smoking I want some.

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 9:55 pm Whatever it is you're smoking I want some.

Really? I don't, not if it makes you spout unsubstantiated bollocks out loud like a Poundshop Andrea Jenkins.

NevTheSweeper wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:23 pm he is also on track to destroying the country.

He's missed the boat by the good part of a decade on that one.

1. Labour have been in office about 10 weeks.

2. Much of that was the summer "silly season", and the papers need filling.

3. We all know how the media works - even Nev. Space needs filling. "Good telly" mantra sees the promotion of loud opinions over cautious ones.

4. It's not unreasonable to suggest there has been coordination and amplification by very bad faith actors in several situations (e.g. Farage riots).

I see the “someone’s gifted a private shopper that was declared, but declared late after advice was re-checked” and “I gave my mate a billion pound health contract on the quiet with no bid process and in exchange got a box of reject marigolds (left only) and a bottle of TCP” equivalence police are out in force.

Simon Case has been busy for once, Shame it’s not doing a job he is paid for.

mattomac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 5:47 pm Simon Case has been busy for once, Shame it’s not doing a job he is paid for.

Is this a reference to the Sue Gray salary story?

Because

Peter Oborne
@OborneTweets
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The BBC political editor (260K pa) thinks it's
a story that the Downing Street chief of staff (170K pa) earns more than the PM (167Kpa).
Welcome to political journalism!

PS Laura Kuenssberg is on 325K, Nick Robinson 340K and Fiona Bruce even more.

Westminster politicians have always earned less than their equivalent civil servants.

davidjay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:20 pm Westminster politicians have always earned less than their equivalent civil servants.

Wait till they find out what Honourable Members for Clacton take home. In a month...

If you adjusted Nick Timothy’s salary from 2016 for inflation, it would be £187,000 (h/t Sam Freedman).

PS Laura Kuenssberg is on 325K

Find it hard to believe any rival current affairs broadcaster has ever put out the feelers to poach LK. Did Robbie Gibb wrangle this wage packet for services to the Tory Party?

Andy McDandy wrote:1. Labour have been in office about 10 weeks.

2. Much of that was the summer "silly season", and the papers need filling.

3. We all know how the media works - even Nev. Space needs filling. "Good telly" mantra sees the promotion of loud opinions over cautious ones.

4. It's not unreasonable to suggest there has been coordination and amplification by very bad faith actors in several situations (e.g. Farage riots).

Good point about the summer silly season. New governments don’t usually enter office at this time. Wonder if it was a minor reason Sunak called the election when he did.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Sep 18, 2024 9:35 pm If you adjusted Nick Timothy’s salary from 2016 for inflation, it would be £187,000 (h/t Sam Freedman).

Ditto Dominic Cummings, I believe.

For what it's worth, all of the BBC's senior political presenters have a larger annual salary than both Starmer and Sue Gray.

Combined...in some cases.

Well the government are now in crisis folks.