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Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:50 am
by Youngian
A minister in England is a nice Methodist attending CND marches. In Scotland he’s a dark shadow of fire and brimstone.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:43 am
by Nigredo
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/the-er ... -hastings/

For what it's worth, Max Hastings is switching camp for the next election.

Will be interesting to see the shift in tone from the rabid commentary at Der Heily Telegraph press conglomeration.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:54 am
by Andy McDandy
Anna Soubry too. Hard to see what she might personally get out of it, so looks like she's just had enough.

As for Hastings, the nutter brigade will insist he was never really one of the chaps - remember the diss piece he did on Big Shite Al?

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:23 am
by Bones McCoy
Nigredo wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:43 am https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/the-er ... -hastings/

For what it's worth, Max Hastings is switching camp for the next election.

Will be interesting to see the shift in tone from the rabid commentary at Der Heily Telegraph press conglomeration.
Really interesting piece, worth the 5-10 minutes it takes to read.

Hastings is a good communicator, knows enough history and has seen enough.
He knows that the present incarnation of the Tories will only repeat mistakes of the past.
The sort of disastrous mistakes that should have been learned from.
The sort break nations and cast lives aside.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:25 am
by Bones McCoy
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:54 am Anna Soubry too. Hard to see what she might personally get out of it, so looks like she's just had enough.

As for Hastings, the nutter brigade will insist he was never really one of the chaps - remember the diss piece he did on Big Shite Al?
The nutters at ConservativeHome will replace Sunak's name with Hastings in their "Not a proper Conservative" comments.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:49 am
by Nigredo
Bones McCoy wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:23 am
Nigredo wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:43 am https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/the-er ... -hastings/

For what it's worth, Max Hastings is switching camp for the next election.

Will be interesting to see the shift in tone from the rabid commentary at Der Heily Telegraph press conglomeration.
Really interesting piece, worth the 5-10 minutes it takes to read.

Hastings is a good communicator, knows enough history and has seen enough.
He knows that the present incarnation of the Tories will only repeat mistakes of the past.
The sort of disastrous mistakes that should have been learned from.
The sort break nations and cast lives aside.
Indeed, and he seems to be casting a wider eye over it than some of his peers.

I had to roll my eyes at Rory Stewart's recent praise of Sunak, and concurrent criticism of Starmer. As much as I enjoy him denigrating the pork haystack, his sharp eye and tongue seems to be only for settling scores against those who've wronged him.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:21 pm
by mattomac
Never understood the love for Rory Stewart, he seems even more empty than Sunak.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:04 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Absolutely appalling and predictable from Murray and the Spectator.


Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 7:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Steve Hilton here, from the deeply non-establishment Rupert Murdoch's news channel.

As an aside, my understanding of this issue is that if somebody from ISIL or Hamas or whoever blows themselves up on market day in Tel Aviv, then I'd call them a "terrorist". If they band together as an army and try and invade another country, they're "militants".


Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:51 pm
by Andy McDandy
On the one hand, nanny state telling us what to say.

On the other, YOU MUST USE THESE WORDS!

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 6:53 am
by Youngian
Jacinta Price is the Australian Suella Braverman, some deeply cringing toadying to Lachlan Murdoch here

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 11:28 am
by Bones McCoy
mattomac wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:21 pm Never understood the love for Rory Stewart, he seems even more empty than Sunak.
Combine the good internationalist aspects of Stewart with the bad venal aspects of Johnson.
You end up with Lord Byron.

Is Stewart a cleaned up Byronic hero?

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:33 pm
by Rosvanian
On face value, Stewart doesn't seem to be a just another vicious right wing cunt. It's a low bar, but hey....

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:37 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
And old-fashioned Butskellite.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2023 12:46 pm
by Youngian
Stewart doesn’t believe right honourable chaps should be subject to the judiciary as you’ll end up with political judges and that would be bad for democracy. At least he’s a Tory that’s made an effort to give you some intellectual gruel to chomp on.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:03 pm
by Boiler
For real...? :shock:



Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2023 11:28 pm
by davidjay
Boiler wrote: Sun Oct 22, 2023 6:03 pm For real...? :shock:


Of course. Free speech means the right to agree with them.

Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Mon Oct 23, 2023 12:32 pm
by Boiler
Some ex-military shithead elsewhere implored us to watch this YT video. I haven't, but who are The New Culture Forum? They're another 55TS outfit.



Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:11 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Posh Tommy Robinson is lying again.


Re: Those upon the political Right...

Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:10 pm
by davidjay
Looks like another lot have sprung up: