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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:22 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
What on earth is Michael Ellis going to say at the UQ? Never heard of any letter from Lord McDonald. What, philosophically speaking, is a letter?
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:52 pm
by Andy McDandy
He knows the cameras are there, so he gives everyone a list of talking points to regurgitate. Imagine what it's like without them there.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:06 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
James O'Brien was critiquing it in real time.
It can be done...
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:25 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is the most incredible session of Parliament I've ever seen. No "hear hear"s from the government side. Only Peter Bone has spoken in support of Bozo, and that was "my constituents don't care".
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Caroline Johnson (Con, Sleaford and North Hykeham) got stuck in nicely, and gave Ellis an incredibly filthy look after his shit response.
Andrew Slaughter took the piss out of Ellis spectacularly, and he didn't like it.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:38 pm
by Samanfur
Caroline Nokes wasn't pulling punches, either. Definitely staying off-message.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Caroline Nokes has been good for a while.
Caroline Johnson publicly supported Bozo in the VONC. I wonder how many more there are like her.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:12 pm
by Boiler
Michael Ellis, the sycophant-in-chief.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:14 pm
by Andy McDandy
Apparently (according to the Telegraph's Tony Diver), many Tory MPs were heckled with "How many boys did you touch up?" over the weekend.
Aw, bless.
Anyway, that might have soured the mood a bit.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:15 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:14 pm
Apparently (according to the Telegraph's Tony Diver), many Tory MPs were heckled with "How many boys did you touch up?" over the weekend.
Aw, bless.
Anyway, that might have soured the mood a bit.
Did they give a number, though?
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:16 pm
by Youngian
Trying to understand why this Pincher affair is proving so incendiary with the media when its a fairly mild example of Johnson’s lying and duplicity. Is it because he’s deemed a homosexual predator by Dacre and Rupert rather than one of the lads having a bit of slap and tickle with Noaksey and Nadine? And his name’s Pincher, ha ha ha.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:35 pm
by Boiler
The simile made me smile.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:39 pm
by Crabcakes
Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:16 pm
Trying to understand why this Pincher affair is proving so incendiary with the media when its a fairly mild example of Johnson’s lying and duplicity. Is it because he’s deemed a homosexual predator by Dacre and Rupert rather than one of the lads having a bit of slap and tickle with Noaksey and Nadine? And his name’s Pincher, ha ha ha.
I think it’s simply - and tragically - the case that the decision to pull support has been made, and this just happens to be the next story. It’s absolutely not the worst of an excruciatingly awful bunch, just the latest turd out of the sewage pipe.
Marina Hyde absolutely nails the absurdness of it all, and the awful familiarity of this tactic of relentless yet astonishingly clumsy bullshitting.
There are highly unstable radioactive isotopes that deteriorate less quickly than a No 10 line. In five days, on Pincher alone, we’ve had the prime minister knowing nothing about it and declaring the matter closed. That didn’t hold; Pincher belatedly lost the whip. We’ve had Thérèse Coffey saying the prime minister wasn’t aware of any misconduct allegations. That didn’t hold. We’ve had children’s minister Will Quince, appropriately exhibiting a childlike trust when explained he’d been given a “categorical assurance” by No 10 that Johnson knew nothing of “any serious specific allegation with regards to Chris Pincher”. By last night, even Johnson’s wife’s camp appeared to be briefing against him, with friends of Carrie claiming she’d actively questioned Pincher’s suitability as a whip as far back as 2017. Then this morning, we’ve had Raab, trying to fit wings to this baby: “I don’t think the prime minister is aware of any substantiated complaints against Chris Pincher, to the extent they would trigger a formal mechanism.” What is this word salad?! And how can it already be off the menu?!
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... SApp_Other
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:24 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Dacre-Rothermere pivot isn't looking too clever now.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:27 pm
by Andy McDandy
I've a feeling we're approaching the McKenzie-Shitbucket Barrier*.
*The point, when breached, nothing save the Daily Express will carry on supporting the Tories in their current form. From the oft-quoted instance when on withdrawal from the ERM and the collapse of any image of financial/economic competence, Kelvin MacKenzie turned the Sun on John Major.
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:06 pm
by Samanfur
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:17 pm
by Samanfur
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:19 pm
by Crabcakes
Here we go! #popcorn
Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:23 pm
by Boiler
"Judas H. Priest Frank, I go for a lie-down for an hour and two cabinet ministers resign?!"
(with apologies to the writers of Hill Street Blues)
PMQs is going to be fucking hilarious tomorrow, if Starmer bothers to take advantage of this. I reckon Ms. Rayner would have no qualms about it.