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Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2021 8:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I don't know. I would think not, because unions would ensure wages were OK.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 4:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This would indeed seem like a fairly simple stance to take. As she says later, you can't really object to Phillips getting a favour because he's an influential broadcaster then stick up for Loach because films.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:29 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I'd also dispute the phrase Britain's greatest living film maker as well.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:55 pm
by satnav
Whilst I'm a big fan of his films when I went to see him speak just before the last election I found him to be rather self indulgent. At a time when all the energy should have been aimed at trying to win the election he used the event to indulge in factional in fighting. His comment went down well with a small section of the audience it hardly inspired people to go out knocking on doors campaigning.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:41 pm
by Boiler
The Weeping Angel wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 7:29 pm I'd also dispute the phrase Britain's greatest living film maker as well.
To whom would you give that title, TWA? Curious, because I can't think of anyone but it certainly wouldn't be Loach.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:27 pm
by MisterMuncher
Edgar Wright.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:29 pm
by davidjay
I can think of a time when one man made a bid for the title.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:07 am
by Boiler
MisterMuncher wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:27 pm Edgar Wright.
Two days older than my sister.

Needs further investigation.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:14 am
by MisterMuncher
The Cornetto Trilogy are all gems, the central notion of taking high concept, genre film ideas and beating them into fairly everyday English/British life and ordinary problems is a thoroughly good one. That they generally succeed at both is the really impressive part.

Baby Driver is a ridiculous film. A jukebox musical heist/car chase film absolutely shouldn't work, but it does.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:59 am
by Youngian
satnav wrote: Sat Aug 14, 2021 9:55 pm Whilst I'm a big fan of his films when I went to see him speak just before the last election

Loach had a fine body of work behind him when he rejoined the party. This helped many forget about his and Jim Allen’s highly offensive antisemitic and infantile play Perdition. As Chris Rock said about Michael Jackson; ‘We liked Michael so much we let the first kid slide.’

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 12:37 pm
by Andy McDandy
The Polanski defence.

"He fucked kids"

"Yebbut Chinatown..."

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:48 pm
by Youngian
Boiler wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 4:33 pm I know that I'm not in a good headspace at the moment since I stopped taking my little helpers, but I am finding it very difficult to be optimistic about Labour's future right now and more to the point, what sort of society we are headed towards.
I have no idea what the political landscape will be like next saturday tea time.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 4:20 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Campaign Group MPs and sundry media Jez fans are making absolute arses of themselves. None of them are engaging with the substance of Loach's case, it's all films. Or Trevor Phillips. Talking of whom, he made some very good episodes of the London Programme on issues facing working class Londoners. How can such a man be kicked out of Labour? (Satire alert- of course he should be).

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:23 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Pathetic by Andrew Fisher.

I'm never very clear what the gay Peter Mandelson is being accused of here.


Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:08 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:23 pm Pathetic by Andrew Fisher.

I'm never very clear what the gay Peter Mandelson is being accused of here.

Hanging around with a nonce? Anyway it's interesting that Fisher should bring up Kes considering that whilst making that film Ken Loach delibrately canned children to get the correct reaction.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Are they saying Mandelson knew all about what Epstein did? What's the context of the photo?

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:04 am
by Youngian
Ghislaine Maxwell was a well connected socialite that captured Epstein's attention. Gary Barlow and Kylie have probably been to this couple's parties as well.

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:10 pm
by Oboogie
Youngian wrote: Mon Aug 16, 2021 8:04 am Ghislaine Maxwell was a well connected socialite that captured Epstein's attention. Gary Barlow and Kylie have probably been to this couple's parties as well.
Dunno about Gary Barlow and Kylie but here she is with Mick Jagger. A quick Google of "Ghislaine Maxwell famous friends brings up loads of people - most of whom mean nothing to me, but I'm not going to call them all sex traffickers or rapists without better evidence than they attended a party or two 20 years ago.

https://pagesix.com/2020/07/02/pre-arre ... friends/#5

Re: Labour, generally.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:21 pm
by Youngian
Piers Morgan is there, of course. He's butted his way into everyone's pics. And no doubt sucked up to Ghislaine's dad.