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Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:08 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Did someone order a kitten?
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Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:11 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:06 pm
Oh FFS what?
Because that is an utterly childish thing to post.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:13 pm
by The Weeping Angel
MisterMuncher wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:04 pm
Because he's not the one in front of me going "it was ten years ago" mostly. If you're going to make an argument, it's hardly out of order for someone to ask you to back it up.
Well not being him I can't say for certain but it's around late to mid thirties.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:18 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:11 pm
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:06 pm
Oh FFS what?
Because that is an utterly childish thing to post.
Maybe it's childish to pick on someone who isn't here to defend themselves.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:28 pm
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:56 pm
I don't know really know whay don't you ask him yourself? As for what he did I do recall Tomos did he regretted that. But let's use that against him because he criticised Cold War Steve,
This is the whole point, TWA. A man who wears an IDF top to wind up Palestinians at a peaceful demo is *not* going to look at a piece of satirical art poking fun at Netenyahu objectively.
So as I’ve said many times, if you still want to think it’s anti-Jewish and anti-Israel despite the absolute lack of symbolism of either then that’s your choice. But this is like citing Farage as a source when talking about immigration - it damages your argument by association because there’s no way in hell they’ve considered what it might be representing for even a moment.
And pointing out why he’s an unreliable source is neither childish nor bullying. Either he is unaware of the impact of what he’s doing/saying (in which case we should also disregard his opinions on things), or he is a grown adult making decisions about publicly stating strong opinions (in which case his past actions are relevant context). What he can’t be is a valid commenter with strong opinions AND completely devoid of any responsibility or context.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:34 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I've had enough of this, the block hammer is out of the cupboard.
Meanwhile, take the fucking hint...
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Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2024 2:38 pm
by MisterMuncher
Is Cold War Steve here, then? Is he me?
Without getting any further into this, extending the already lazy, bad-faith, unfalsifiable and fucking stupid idea that any criticism of Israel is inherently antisemitic onto the person of Benjamin Netanayhu isn't making it any less lazy, bad faith or fucking stupid.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 8:42 pm
by Philip Marlow
I know Yom Kippur has been and gone, but I’m seriously thinking I should have offered the prayer of atonement of behalf of these people’s dwindling sense of self-respect.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 10:23 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Does Saul Staniforth just spend all his time watching the news and selectively clipping it to get clicks?
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:52 pm
by The Weeping Angel
It seems that Yahya Sinwar has been killed.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 4:44 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:52 pm
It seems that Yahya Sinwar has been killed.
Oh dear. How sad.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:33 pm
by Killer Whale
Whack-a-mole. Another crazed maniac will be along to take his place shortly.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:25 pm
by NevTheSweeper
Killer Whale wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2024 5:33 pm
Whack-a-mole. Another crazed maniac will be along to take his place shortly.
And with that, the world is staring into the abyss.....
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:11 pm
by Andy McDandy
And when we look up from the blood-filled gutter and whisper "save us", you and the rest of the Corbyn club will reply "no"?
Sod off, Poorscharch.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 3:26 pm
by Philip Marlow
Isaac Chotiner has, over the years, perfected an interview technique which, without Paxmanesque barking or any real, discernible hostility at all, gradually walks his subjects down a garden path leading to some pretty horrific admissions about themselves.
The Jacobson article which prompted this exchange is linked below, and worth reading first.
https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... till-today
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:40 pm
by The Weeping Angel
It's kind of telling how Palestinians like this aren't listend to by western pro-palestinians
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:59 pm
by Philip Marlow
Given the recent departure of the uncomfortable liberal contingent, I’m somewhat impressed by the editor’s commitment to the fuck-‘em-and-burn-‘em bit.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 9:15 pm
by Philip Marlow
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:40 pm
It's kind of telling how Palestinians like this aren't listend to by western pro-palestinians
I’m listening to them. I’m just not sure the entirety of the Gaza Strip deserves to be burnt to a crisp on account of the fact that some of its residents aren’t massive fans of Hamas.
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:12 am
by The Weeping Angel
Where did I say that they deserve to be burnt to a crisp?
Re: Palestine, Israel, and beyond
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:05 am
by Killer Whale
Watching the journey of some of my friends on social media from 'Two state solution' a year ago to the verge of 'Drive Israel into the sea and kill all the Jews' now has been... I don't know...
Sad? Instructive?
I always thought the instinctive kneejerk reaction to Oct 7 amongst some on the left to march in support of Palestine was a bit tasteless and insensitive, but I'm starting now to see where that came from.