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Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:24 pm**

LBC are broadcasting his speech at the Labour conference, I'm enjoying it even with the Corbynista dickheads shouting in the background.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:35 pm**

Oblomov wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:24 pm LBC are broadcasting his speech at the Labour conference, I'm enjoying it even with the Corbynista dickheads shouting in the background.

They're probably just embarrassed that Labour actually has a leader from working class roots now, as opposed to a chronically lazy champagne socialist who was raised in a mansion and liked to swan off on extended round the world trips.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:40 pm**

"My dad was a toolmaker, although, in a way, so was Boris Johnson's."

Cleverer - and much funnier - than calling him scum.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:44 pm**

Oboogie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:40 pm "My dad was a toolmaker, although, in a way, so was Boris Johnson's."

Cleverer - and much funnier - than calling him scum.
Edit: and here's a meme.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:42 pm**

Well the speech is over and the first person the BBC asks is Laura Pidcock.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:09 pm**

The BBC has form for that. When Labour won the Peterborough by-election the other year the first person they interviewed was that well-known Labour activist Nigel Farage.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:11 pm**

Laura knows how to win an election… she will get around to it one day.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:37 pm**

The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:42 pm Well the speech is over and the first person the BBC asks is Laura Pidcock.

Yeah, that was annoying. Couldn't see the point. She'd have been fucking complaining whatever Starmer had said.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:39 pm**

Well they've fucking nailed him now, lads, with his so-called "patriotism"

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:49 pm**

Is there really no difference between being patriotic and being a jingoistic fuckloon then?

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:08 pm**

Oboogie wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:40 pm "My dad was a toolmaker, although, in a way, so was Boris Johnson's."

Cleverer - and much funnier - than calling him scum.

I enjoyed this from the last 24 hours: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58718835.amp

He said he came into politics "to go into government to change millions of lives", not "lose and then tweet about it".

Kudos to whoever is supplying these zingers.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:14 pm**

BBN wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:39 pm Well they've fucking nailed him now, lads, with his so-called "patriotism"

Oh no, where would we be without HMS Gammon?

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:24 pm**

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:37 am
Voters don’t believe Labour promises of free jelly and ice cream. The ball’s in their court to convince the public that its Johnson living in cloud cuckoo land. Hasn’t so far but the more ridiculous Johnson’s promises are, the more sober labour should become.

That's right. Labour seems to be prepared to spend big on stuff where they're comfortable explaining it will save money in the long run- school catch up, green investment. But otherwise it's 1992 forever.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:25 pm**

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:14 pm
BBN wrote: ↑Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:39 pm Well they've fucking nailed him now, lads, with his so-called "patriotism"

Oh no, where would we be without HMS Gammon?

Ha ha ha ha.

This is the yacht they need for trade deals, when they keep telling us how many trade deals they've done.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:19 pm**

Well they haven’t got the yacht yet…..

Just wait until then.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:25 pm**

Unfortunately, having to win over deeply unrepresentative selectorates is part of democratic culture as well.

I don't think Starmer helps himself with some of this, mind. I mean Owen would presumably agree Tories have cost the country a ton of money in the last couple of years and will in the next couple. If I were Starmer I'd make that point and ask if the priorities (some very expensive) can be exactly the same.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:33 pm**

Now we know: Keir Starmer won’t generate a surge of support
Aditya Chakrabortty

The what?

Nor did Gordon Brown, but I preferred him to Nigel Farage, Mrs Thatcher and Eva Peron.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:13 pm**

I don't really follow Labour's internal shenanigans but what has Starmer actually done to rile up Owen Jones and the Bastani crowd so much and for them to accuse him of being dishonest? Was it just the change in the leadership voting system?

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:23 pm**

Their political direction is a left-wing fantasy of uncosted, unplanned socialism. Support for Palestine, opposition to Israel, hatred of Jews.

Under the Absolute Bhoy they thought they might get their fantasies played out (never going to happen, but ignore that).

They believe that people who have rejected crude socialism and infantile foreign policies will vote for them if they shout louder.

Now their fantasy is slipping away. Realism and a proper respect for the electorate have come back, and they can't stand it. They think that the Worker's Paradise was in their grasp and they have had it snatched away.

So they squeal, and shout, and sloganise. You notice their lack of policy alternatives other than '£15'.

Very bad losers, they'd rather knock the board over than accept checkmate.

Posted: **Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:28 pm**

They don't like anyone who's on good terms with the US ("warmongers"). Their role is not to "provoke" Putin or China by, er, making sure that they are complete sitting ducks.

The £15 is quite the most shameless ridiculous gameplaying I've ever seen.

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