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Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:35 pm
by Oboogie
Jenrick's latest strategy to appeal to the party is to accuse the SAS of war crimes without providing any evidence or even details, I wonder how the Tory membership will respond to that one?
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:40 am
by Crabcakes
NevTheSweeper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2024 4:56 pm
All of the Conervative leadership candidates are awful. At least we don't have to listen to them for the next five years.
I regret to inform you that our right-wing media may have other plans…
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:21 pm
by Abernathy
Badenoch opens her speech with the line "It is time to tell the truth."
Rrrrrrright ............
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:30 pm
by Abernathy
Oddly, both Jenrick and Badenoch seem to have it in for Ed Miliband.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:39 pm
by Abernathy
Been watching the speeches. I think I missed Tugendhat’s but I caught Jenrick’s, and now Badenoch’s .
All the same levers being pulled : crackdown on “mass” immigration, abandon human rights by leaving the ECHR, deregulate everything from planning to health and safety. Fuck “identity politics”. Small state, small government.
It’s appalling. But like a crash on the M6, hard not to slow down and rubberneck a little.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:11 pm
by Youngian
Jenrick has a daughter whose middle name is Thatcher. Worra cunt.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 1:22 pm
by Andy McDandy
And like a car crash on the M6, it often involves wankers from Stoke.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 2:14 pm
by Bones McCoy
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:41 pm
by Abernathy
Another thing I learned from Wikipedia : In 2018, Kemi Badenoch admitted to hacking Harriet Harman’s website. Harman apparently accepted an apology from Badenoch, but it was reported to to Action Fraud, the UK's cyber crime reporting centre.
I’d like to hear more about this.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I'm astonished to hear that Badenoch is running her campaign from the home of a rich man. The only people not astonished are Badenoch's party and the media who've been going to town on Starmer and Lord Alli.
I know state-funding of politicians' expenses isn't a popular cause, but the Leader of the Opposition does get a salary from the taxpayer in recognition of their importance. Would it be so outrageous if the taxpayer funded at least some of this expenditure for the candidates?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... uru-s-home
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I used to be a bit of a politics obsessive in the 90s, and I'm sure I can remember people running for stuff then meeting at the home of somebody or other in Lord North Street (might have been Jonathan Aitken). I don't recall anything being made of that at all.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 5:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Abernathy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:41 pm
Another thing I learned from Wikipedia : In 2018, Kemi Badenoch admitted to hacking Harriet Harman’s website. Harman apparently accepted an apology from Badenoch, but it was reported to to Action Fraud, the UK's cyber crime reporting centre.
I’d like to hear more about this.
No wonder Kemi didn't want to answer that Theresa May style question on naughty things she'd done. You're not supposed to cough to criminal offences like that.
I think the hacking was a long time in the past and the Police didn't bother with it.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
https://bsky.app/profile/josiahjourno.b ... k5dubwda2w
You know who I don't want in charge of this? Kemi Badenoch and (as it will be) Policy Exchange.
Josiah Mortimer
@josiahjourno.bsky.social
In Kemi Badenoch's speech today, she pledged a "comprehensive plan" to reconstitute the British state
"A new blueprint for the great machine of our country, that goes far beyond the relationship with the EU or the ECHR, a plan that considers every aspect of what the state does, and why it does it"
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:29 pm
by MisterMuncher
You can't expect her to still be suffering consequences over indiscretions she committed as a mere slip of a girl of 38
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It was 2018 that she admitted it, rather than did it. She was only 28.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 7:36 pm
by satnav
Badenoch's supporters like to go on about how good she is at attacking the left but is that really what the party needs? The Tories were very good at attacking Labour in the recent General election but it didn't win them a single seat from Labour. The Tories got hammered at the election because they lost so many votes to the Reform Party.
If Labour are able to start turn the economy around before 2029 then attacking the left is not going to play well in the next general election and if Labour don't start turning things around by 2029 there really won't be any need to attack the left.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:03 am
by mattomac
Is it tomorrow we find out who the final two are.
Or they going spend another week of this?
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 10:23 am
by Samanfur
Abernathy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2024 3:41 pm
Another thing I learned from Wikipedia : In 2018, Kemi Badenoch admitted to hacking Harriet Harman’s website. Harman apparently accepted an apology from Badenoch, but it was reported to to Action Fraud, the UK's cyber crime reporting centre.
I’d like to hear more about this.
I remember the coverage. It was genuinely written off as the youthful hijinks Badenoch claimed it was.
Badenoch was 28 at the time.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:03 am
by Abernathy
mattomac wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 12:03 am
Is it tomorrow we find out who the final two are.
Or they going spend another week of this?
The parliamentary party will narrow down to four candidates, who will make their case to Conservative Party members at the Conservative Party Conference.
The parliamentary party will then whittle it down to the final two candidates, who will then be subject to a vote by Conservative Party members
Bob Blackman MP will act as returning officer for the election.
Once the parliamentary process is completed, CCHQ will assume responsibility for the administration of the vote of the Conservative Party membership.
The ballot of Party members will be conducted via secure online voting. The ballot will close at 1700hrs on Thursday 31st October – the result will be announced on Saturday 2nd November.
So it's going on for another fecking month. Lord only knows why it's being dragged out so long.
Re: Tory Leadership Election 2024
Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 11:16 am
by Youngian
So it's going on for another fecking month. Lord only knows why it's being dragged out so long.
No hurry and a chance to see who can go the distance. And they can make Sunak stay behind after school a bit longer before he skives off to California.