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Anyone think the Tories are hoping to gain a load of seats? Me neither, but I can see why they say this. You have to make it look like you have momentum, however ridiculus that is. And to be "targeting" 220 seats is pretty ridiculous.

In this case, "targeting" means we'll campaign only here.
Safe tory seats (if any exist) and safe Labour seats will be ignored.

Efficient use of resources they'll reason.
Efficient like under staffing the hospital's ICU "Most were going to die anyway".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilfredo_Pareto will be spinning in his grave.

Lose 200…

And maybe the other 20.

I'd like to be the first to add

FUCK THE TORIES!!!

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 1:09 am I'd like to be the first to add

FUCK THE TORIES!!!

No thanks, I do have standards.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:27 pm In this case, "targeting" means we'll campaign only here.
Safe tory seats (if any exist) and safe Labour seats will be ignored.

Efficient use of resources they'll reason.
Efficient like under staffing the hospital's ICU "Most were going to die anyway".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilfredo_Pareto will be spinning in his grave.

Isn't that a regular election strategy?

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 11:38 pm

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:27 pm In this case, "targeting" means we'll campaign only here.
Safe tory seats (if any exist) and safe Labour seats will be ignored.

Efficient use of resources they'll reason.
Efficient like under staffing the hospital's ICU "Most were going to die anyway".


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilfredo_Pareto will be spinning in his grave.

Isn't that a regular election strategy?

Yeah.

But if you're a "consulting election strategist" on a hefty retainer.
You'll have an intern knock out a few powerpoints, bung in some Japanese "kaizen", "poka-yoke", "erufu".
Bewilder the yokels with your secret urban elite know-how.
Convince them you're providing Kachi for their kerching.

Bullshit Baffles Brains and Boosts Bank Balances.

Love the mention of Kaizen there - it's actually a sound concept, just horrifically misunderstood (or more accurately, mis-sold) by too many people. The idea of consistently making small and gradual improvements to one's environment is fine, and there's really no mystery to it.

I've seen a few organisations promoting internal "kaizen events". The twats.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 11:00 am Bullshit Baffles Brains and Boosts Bank Balances.

Love the mention of Kaizen there - it's actually a sound concept, just horrifically misunderstood (or more accurately, mis-sold) by too many people. The idea of consistently making small and gradual improvements to one's environment is fine, and there's really no mystery to it.

I've seen a few organisations promoting internal "kaizen events". The twats.

It's certainly beloved of bullshitters.
Chuck in a couple of original pokemon names and you're a guru.

It's the business equivalent of that kid at your primary school who "knew all about Karate".

Kaizen in principle is fine (as are other forms of TQM) you can't argue with continuous improvement and that bottom up suggestions should be welcomed. But, to work well, it needs to be organic rather than prescriptive. The problem lies in the implementation, in Japan Kaizen means that bloke on shopfloor spots an inefficiency, suggests an improvement and is listened to.
In the USA (and therefore copied in Britain) it has become prescriptive and forced, "Each employee/department must make five suggestions for improvement by the end of the month". This can lead to change for change's sake as the pressure is there to make suggestions, even if they can't actually think of any. That way effective practices get scrapped to be replaced by back of a fag packet "improvements".

Yes, the trend in western thinking is "If your opinions meant anything, you'd not be working at that lowly level". Similar to the Peter principle and one of the reasons we're so taken in by idiots with the right accents.

Oboogie wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pm Kaizen in principle is fine (as are other forms of TQM) you can't argue with continuous improvement and that bottom up suggestions should be welcomed. But, to work well, it needs to be organic rather than prescriptive. The problem lies in the implementation, in Japan Kaizen means that bloke on shopfloor spots an inefficiency, suggests an improvement and is listened to.
In the USA (and therefore copied in Britain) it has become prescriptive and forced, "Each employee/department must make five suggestions for improvement by the end of the month". This can lead to change for change's sake as the pressure is there to make suggestions, even if they can't actually think of any. That way effective practices get scrapped to be replaced by back of a fag packet "improvements".

Let's not ignore how "kaizen" sounds so much cleverer than "continuous process improvement".

Oboogie wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 12:48 pm Kaizen in principle is fine (as are other forms of TQM) you can't argue with continuous improvement and that bottom up suggestions should be welcomed. But, to work well, it needs to be organic rather than prescriptive. The problem lies in the implementation, in Japan Kaizen means that bloke on shopfloor spots an inefficiency, suggests an improvement and is listened to.
In the USA (and therefore copied in Britain) it has become prescriptive and forced, "Each employee/department must make five suggestions for improvement by the end of the month". This can lead to change for change's sake as the pressure is there to make suggestions, even if they can't actually think of any. That way effective practices get scrapped to be replaced by back of a fag packet "improvements".

Or effective practice written off as "red tape".

Having been a Quality Manager in the rail industry for a good few years before leaving the industry,quality management is seen as red tape until fertiliser and extraction equipment collide and then everyone is looking at you to sort it out, understand how it happened, stop it happening again, wondering why you didn’t spot it in the first place. Very often you had during the course of an audit and had raised a non conformity which the owner was taking an age to sort out.

I worked for one of the Korean chaebols for many years and had the pleasure of frequent visits to the company's Kaizen school in Korea. Somewhere is a drawer are bits of paper in Korean and English proclaiming me a Kaizen Master and a Six Sigma Black Belt.

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 10:51 am I worked for one of the Korean chaebols for many years and had the pleasure of frequent visits to the company's Kaizen school in Korea. Somewhere is a drawer are bits of paper in Korean and English proclaiming me a Kaizen Master and a Six Sigma Black Belt.

Crikey, that's good...
I got as far as a green belt - nothing like as impressive as it sounds.

Green belt provides enough detail to tell the difference.
Group A: Those who've embraced and apply the methods.
Group B: The likes of Joey Barton who think a few buzzwords make them sound clever.

Another day, another poll.

https://x.com/BritainElects/status/1792605578864259538

Several polls today all over 20pts+

Ipsos saw high numbers for the Greens and low numbers for Remain, Labour’s vote had fallen but was still 20pts+ and will probably be corrected by the Green numbers next time.

The most interesting point was the optimism in the economy and yet it didn’t reflect at all in the figures.

If that’s what they are relying on then they are done.

Heartening to see a poll at last with the combined Con/Ref vote fall below 30%.

mattomac wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2024 1:50 am Several polls today all over 20pts+

Ipsos saw high numbers for the Greens and low numbers for Remain, Labour’s vote had fallen but was still 20pts+ and will probably be corrected by the Green numbers next time.

The most interesting point was the optimism in the economy and yet it didn’t reflect at all in the figures.

If that’s what they are relying on then they are done.

I think it’s going to take a very, very long time for people to forget Truss doubled their mortgage payments overnight specifically to give rich people more money. Not least of which because there will be people coming out of 5-year fixed term deals for a good while yet who will be facing big hikes and far, far fewer options.