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All of it.

Anyhow he launches a vacuous empty video with a drum beat that sounds like it’s off a Gary Glitter song, telling us all he will be a hard working PM (look I’m being filmed reading the papers).

Doesn’t go viral but an old lady takes him to task in a hospital.

All in a day for daily Rishi where reality bites.

Polls still haven’t much changed.

I saw a lobby journalists takes ion cuts before, apparently make them sound really bad but don’t deliver as bad as they sound, again making the same mistake as Energy bills, there does seem to be a narrative developing here and it would be wise not to ignore it in the light of “Austerity 2.0” but the public are asking what has the left 12 years been all for.

And then they make what look like forced mistakes like Leaky Sue, only until you realise that Leaky Sue and the rest aren’t far different from Sunak and what’s gone before.

When you have to reappoint Hunt as a party grandee to appear moderate you are fucked. But there is no Gauke, Hammond, Rudd or Greening.

And no pissy shit video will reach out, his pitch seems to be Starmer is Corbyn which frankly very hard to believe will work.

So far polling under Sunak has only seen (presumably) mainly liberal centre right voters return to the Tories from the Greens and LDs. But Sunak’s not hitting his intended targets by playing anti-green and culture war cards.

The other problem Sunak has got is that the Reform Party appears to be seeing something of a resurgence. It looks like they are sticking with the Brexit Party grift of allowing members to get their 15 minutes of fame by standing for election as long as they stump up a sizeable donation. With Farage and Fox getting regular airtime on GB News and Richard Tice on TalkTV they are likely exploit concerns about immigration to boost support for the Reform party and the Reclaim Party.

satnav wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:14 am The other problem Sunak has got is that the Reform Party appears to be seeing something of a resurgence. It looks like they are sticking with the Brexit Party grift of allowing members to get their 15 minutes of fame by standing for election as long as they stump up a sizeable donation. With Farage and Fox getting regular airtime on GB News and Richard Tice on TalkTV they are likely exploit concerns about immigration to boost support for the Reform party and the Reclaim Party.

I've not really delved much into Reclaim. Are they a bunch of conspiracy theory tinfoil hatters, or are they something a bit nastier but equally batshit, like the old League of Empire Loyalists?

Are they a bunch of conspiracy theory tinfoil hatters, or are they something a bit nastier but equally batshit, like the old League of Empire Loyalists?

Both, it’s Laurence Fox’s war on woke party. He’s a tinfoil hatter and Roderick Spode.

Youngian wrote: ↑Sat Oct 29, 2022 3:47 pm

Are they a bunch of conspiracy theory tinfoil hatters, or are they something a bit nastier but equally batshit, like the old League of Empire Loyalists?

Both, it’s Laurence Fox’s war on woke party. He’s a tinfoil hatter and Roderick Spode.

Except Roderick Spode had gainful employment...

Barely adult.

The bit about taxes. I thought they were going up in about 2 weeks time.

A different bias, always with an interesting take :

I have to say that Sunak's performance at the despatch box thus far has been underwhelming to say the least (but still several light-years better than Truss). It seems pretty clear that trying to brand Keir Starmer as Jeremy Corbyn after a shave and a couple of jars of hair product is going to be the entireity of his strategy between now and the election. Pretty desperate stuff, and not entirely convincing. The swivel-eyed and even some moderate Tory voters will buy it, but nobody else.

I'd say that he should really tell Owen Jones and his Trot mates that Keir Starmer is Jeremy Corbyn with a bottle of after-shave, but even they aren't daft enough to swallow that.

As I've previously observed, it seems that most voters have now passed the tipping point beyond which Labour is not only safe to vote for again, but where people have determined that they are going to vote this appalling shower of a government out wnen the election comes - whenever that may be.

I think the Tory benches are rapidly coming to terms with the equation “less shit than Truss” ≠ “not shit”.

I’ve noticed with climate change and with the asylum seekers crisis (disgusting inhumane bollocks), they’ve decided to take a position and think or expect the public to fall in line.

It’s what my members believe is often the first slip and they expand or retract depending how impossible it is to defend it.

If people like you, they may go with you even if your whims appear insane. Or more likely they will ignore that, there are some points with Starmer that I’m doing the same. But the issue is I like him and I want Labour as the next government.

There position on climate change is at pretty much odds with any opinion poll, their position on the situation with asylum seekers seems to be at odds and if you want real proof of just how out of touch they are Starmer the leader of the opposition uses all 6 PMQ’s to attack the Tory Party on immigration, that is unheard of in my lifetime.

The fact no one reasonably decent is giving Sunak even a draw today says it all. It doesn’t matter in the great scheme of things but if all they have is “Corbyn” (and it seems it as they’ve put out a video on it now) then they are sunk. I suppose Labour are waiting for the boundary change confirmations as there is a easy get out on Islington if it was to pitch Thornberry, Abbot and Corbyn for two seats.

A black woman with years of parliamentary experience and a white woman with years of parliamentary experience are always going win over a white rich bloke with years of parliamentary experience, if it doesn’t and Labour choose a new candidate (I’d say give Sam Tarry a shot ) then what, what does Sunak have?

Sunak's dropped the bollocks about charging for missed doctors appointments. How many times had that been suggested and rejected before?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:08 pm Sunak's dropped the bollocks about charging for missed doctors appointments. How many times had that been suggested and rejected before?

He apparently has dropped every idea he had in the leadership election, or it’s all up for review. The problem based on that is no one is quite sure what he stands for. The alternative could easily cement in the minds of the public mind, that he stands for nothing and is effectively a Burton’s menswear suit fitter (unemployed).

Credit to Sunak if this is true though.

Anybody else think Sunak’s defence of Braverman at PMQs today was decidedly half-hearted?

Surely, as we say in my homeland, Braverman’s jaicket is on a shoogly peg ?

Seems to have won over some on RF&W polling so we get more of this now.

I’m decidedly pessimistic about Them losing the next election again, they could collectively shit themselves in oddbins and they’d still win.

The Tory Party polling is awful, Sunak's is no better than OK. I think they have problems.

Braverman is what Sci Fi critics call reactor shielding, or gamers call a meatshield.
There to draw fire, but disposable without a second glance.

Meanwhile here's an independent MP describing the rent-free life inside the prime minister's head.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:31 pm The Tory Party polling is awful, Sunak's is no better than OK. I think they have problems.

Leads are tumbling all the time, sorry I’m just feeling shit about it all, I wish I could have faith in YG being more accurate and it probably is but it just seems this lot who have no policies, on their third PM and just after crashing the economy still get all the goodwill in the world.

Only bonus is Labour can’t lose any council seats tonight to cheer me up.