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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:59 am
by Tubby Isaacs
More genius policy in action. It doesn't seem to have moved on since Michelle Donelan was embarrassed by exactly the same point (about Holocaust Denial).
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:50 pm
by Youngian
A lot of nominations for dimmest MP and Lucy Allan is a strong contender. Periodically makes very daft remarks.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
One of the worst. If this message ever happened, there's no excuse for leaving it up when pointed out by the actual chair of the Barbican Centre that it's bollocks.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:02 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Christ. Council changes the lights, like she wants. as soon as they could have- funnily enough people to do the job aren't sitting around over the weekend on the off chance a war starts. She's still attacking the display as having been "inappropriate". There are rightwing Republicans who'd not bother with this attack.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:43 pm
by Andy McDandy
That's why you don't let them get a foot in the door. Because before you know it, you're into "to my satisfaction" territory, and you will never win.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 6:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha ha ha.
This'll get the under 40s voting for them. "You know those other Tory Prime Ministers you can remember? They were all shit. You know who isn't? The current one. Yeah, that guy you really don't like. He's great. Sorry we told you others were all good when they were up for election.."
Seems like "this stuff worked for Cameron, let's try it again". Even Nick Macpherson, the very austere former Permanent Secretary at the Treasury, has said they should have borrowed more at low interest rates in that era.
(btw, why is there no controversy about Macpherson massively endorsing Tory policy after his retirement? Seem to have missed all the “right wing civil service” stuff)
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:18 pm
by Yug
Short term politics? What, like promising £36 billion in rail projects one day and then cancelling them all the next? That sort of short term politics?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:32 pm
by satnav
How can a party that has had 5 leaders in 7 years accuse its opponents of short term politics?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:48 pm
by Youngian
satnav wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:32 pm
How can a party that has had 5 leaders in 7 years accuse its opponents of short term politics?
Stick with us and they’ll be jam tomorrow. Echoes of Thatcher, we tighten out belts now and good times will emerge. Accept this shit is on them, any good stuff we had they’ve wrecked it.
‘Get our future back’ does have a ring to it.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:56 pm
by Crabcakes
satnav wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:32 pm
How can a party that has had 5 leaders in 7 years accuse its opponents of short term politics?
I suspect this was thought through no further than Sunak’s slogan for the Tory shitshow was ‘long term solutions’ (because 13 years not enough, seemingly), and accusing Labour of being short term is the opposite.
And that’d be it.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:13 pm
by Andy McDandy
Long term just means don't expect results any time soon.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:31 am
by Crabcakes
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:13 pm
Long term just means don't expect results any time soon.
Or, in the case of the current lot, ever.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:40 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Relatively sane Tory, Neil O'Brien, here, doing awful dogwhistling. To which the target audience is likely to say "Didn't you let them in?" The politics doesn't even make sense on its own terms.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:32 pm
by Youngian
Peter Hitchens blames the permissive society for the housing shortage which has caused rocketing divorce rates. A novel angle that the Tories could have played when they were the responsible daddy party. Instead of the deadbeat absent father’s party.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
That one rather died on its arse in the John Major era.
Does Hitchens think that everybody who gets divorced is a 1970 Haight-Ashbury hippy? Only that's not my experience. Some of the most religious people I know have got divorced.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:44 pm
by Youngian
Hitchens blamed Engelbert Humperdinck
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:05 pm
by Andy McDandy
Next - the numbers of stray and dangerous dogs. The disturbing parallels between them, and the release of the Baha Men's "Who Let the Dogs Out?".
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:07 pm
by Yug
Today I have learned of the existence of Neil 0-Brain. A genuine modern Tory: he can't stop fucking lying.