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Re: Reform Party

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:51 pm
by The Weeping Angel

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:01 pm
by Oboogie
Abernathy wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:51 pm If there are no members of parliament, there are no rules governing those who once were such. Private individuals, which these individuals now are, are free to do as they please, short of criminal endeavour.
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks Abers.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:17 pm
by davidjay
soulboy wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:05 pm If he wins Clacton, eighth time lucky, he will be an MP. Any MP can cross the floor to another party. Rishi quits, Fargle becomes a Tory MP and there we go....
Surely to God even the most rabidly xenophobic Tory would be against such blatant carpetbaggery?

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:11 am
by Watchman
Why isn’t he standing in Dover, you know where people would actually expect him to “do something about the boats”

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:27 am
by Rosvanian
davidjay wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:17 pm
soulboy wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:05 pm If he wins Clacton, eighth time lucky, he will be an MP. Any MP can cross the floor to another party. Rishi quits, Fargle becomes a Tory MP and there we go....
Surely to God even the most rabidly xenophobic Tory would be against such blatant carpetbaggery?
I'm not so sure. They seem convinced that the country is desperate for a massive lurch to the hard right.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:13 pm
by Bones McCoy
Watchman wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:11 am Why isn’t he standing in Dover, you know where people would actually expect him to “do something about the boats”
I think the answer's contained within your question.
people would actually expect him to “do something

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:14 pm
by Bones McCoy
Rosvanian wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:27 am
davidjay wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 9:17 pm
soulboy wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:05 pm If he wins Clacton, eighth time lucky, he will be an MP. Any MP can cross the floor to another party. Rishi quits, Fargle becomes a Tory MP and there we go....
Surely to God even the most rabidly xenophobic Tory would be against such blatant carpetbaggery?
I'm not so sure. They seem convinced that the country is desperate for a massive lurch to the hard right.
I see a lot of comments in social media and ConservativeHome.
I'm confident these are the rump who gave us PM Truss.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 12:34 pm
by Youngian
Watchman wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:11 am Why isn’t he standing in Dover, you know where people would actually expect him to “do something about the boats”
Dover’s a living town with a younger demographic. Tories and Reform are now consigned to fighting over nostalgic nationalist hobby politics of the retired.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 1:03 pm
by Andy McDandy
It's also borne the brunt of the Brexit aftermath. I suspect there's a few in that town who'd be happy to toast him with some truckers' Tizer.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 2:46 pm
by Youngian
Farage is a tetchy demagogue when he doesn’t get his own way in interviews. He’s not even been asked particularly difficult questions either.
https://x.com/bladeofthes/status/179768 ... Dkr8MiQKBg

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 3:48 pm
by kreuzberger
Oh, we do like to be beside the seaside...

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:09 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
It would have been funnier if she'd kicked him in the bollocks.

Woman's a mensch.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:20 pm
by Rosvanian
I haven't read anything about whether he actually has a chance of winning.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 5:24 pm
by Youngian
The woman said she didn’t come down town with the intention of throwing a banana milk shake over Farage. But when she saw him “I just felt like it.”

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:17 pm
by zuriblue
This is what happens when lactose meets intolerance.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:55 pm
by Arrowhead
Rosvanian wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:20 pm I haven't read anything about whether he actually has a chance of winning.
Judging by the size of the crowds who came out to hear him speak earlier today, I should think he'll win quite easily.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:07 pm
by Youngian
Arrowhead wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 6:55 pm
Rosvanian wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 4:20 pm I haven't read anything about whether he actually has a chance of winning.
Judging by the size of the crowds who came out to hear him speak earlier today, I should think he'll win quite easily.
A flawed yardstick for measuring wider support (‘Oh Jeremy Corbyn’).

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:24 pm
by Youngian
Dafties on Twitter claimed milkshake girl was a Farage minion pulling an organised stunt to discredit the left (what the Tory MP for Clacton?).
The Mail of course doesn’t let a piss poor conspiracy go to waste.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:32 pm
by Andy McDandy
The thrower ("Victoria") made a fairly bland statement. Just "Yeah, I did it, felt like it". If it had been a set-up, she would likely have been more strident and projecting an image of an overreacting young person.

Re: Reform Party

Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2024 11:17 pm
by davidjay
As always with Farage you have to wonder what he's up to. The last thing he wants is to be a backbench MP with little influence, less power and reduced earning potential, where he would have to play by the rules and - horror of horrors - do some proper work. So if he does get elected, what will he do tomorrow? Merging Reform into the remains of the Tory party is a definite possibility.