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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:08 pm
by Andy McDandy
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... russ-group
You'd need a heart of stone not to laugh.
Sixty Conservative MPs have joined Liz Truss’s Growth Group, imperilling the government’s majority in parliament, as Rishi Sunak was warned by former cabinet ministers “we cannot accept the status quo”.
At a packed fringe meeting during Conservative party conference, Truss and her supporters held a rally where they pushed for the chancellor to cut corporation tax, build 500,000 new homes and resume fracking to cut energy bills.
Truss made her only public appearance during the gathering of activists in Manchester to suggest the Conservatives were no longer the party of business.
Yeah Liz. Who was it who alienated the businessmen?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:11 pm
by Youngian
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:01 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:53 pm
Hang on, what? Is eating meat now part of the cuture war?
Nobody tell her that most Hindus are vegetarian.......
It’s become a religion
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:26 pm
by Youngian
Did Ms Coutinho (who?) clear this speech with No 10, what a nasty piece of work.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:12 pm
by mattomac
Of course she did let’s not pretend Sunak is a moderate anymore.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 5:22 pm
by Oboogie
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 4:01 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Mon Oct 02, 2023 3:53 pm
Hang on, what? Is eating meat now part of the cuture war?
Nobody tell her that most Hindus are vegetarian.......
Including Rishi Sunak.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:25 pm
by Youngian
The bastards are back in business. Instead of collective suicide the Tories might revert to type: a civil war with headbangers who can’t be placated.
BREAKING: Sixty Conservative MPs have joined Liz Truss’s Growth Group, imperilling the government’s majority in parliament, as Rishi Sunak was warned by former cabinet ministers “we cannot accept the status quo”. At a packed fringe meeting during Conservative party conference, Truss and her supporters held a rally where they pushed for the chancellor to cut corporation tax, build 500,000 new homes and resume fracking to cut energy bills.
https://www.threads.net/@uk.political.n ... Q2YQ%3D%3D
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 6:52 pm
by Boiler
John Crace on the subject:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -liz-truss
If Truss had a fault it was that she had never been bold enough. She should have cut taxes further and harder. Corporation tax should go down to 19%. Or even lower. She still had no idea how to fund any of this. Then she would reduce energy bills by fracking the entire country. Except in the bits where no one wanted it. Which was everywhere. And somehow, out of all this, 500,000 new homes would miraculously appear each year. Me neither. It was genuinely breathtaking. Yet some Tories were taking it seriously. Barging past Nigel Farage – the Tories will let in anyone these days – a fan asked Liz to sign a copy of the mini-budget. That was the moment the conference jumped the shark.
Over to the JPF. AKA the New Conservatives. Much the same as the old Conservatives with Bill Cash, John Redwood and Iain Duncan Smith well to the fore. Their event to launch a new manifesto in parallel with Sunak’s manifesto was also packed. Conservatives genuinely hate the Conservatives. They too wanted unfunded tax cuts, along with leaving the ECHR, stopping A-level failures from going to university and being brave enough to kick immigrants who don’t look like you out of town centres. Something for everyone who wants the UK to compete with Russia and Belarus.
Remember - you underestimate Tories at your peril.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Actual Secretary of State here. Never seen her before. She is even worse than you can imagine.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:32 pm
by satnav
Greg Hands slogan today was 'When Labour run things. They run things badly'. And there was me thinking that it was the Tories who ran the HS2 Project, it was the Tories that dished out the PPE contracts, it was Tories who ran the furlough scheme and it is the Tories who are meant to be protecting our borders.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 9:47 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2023 11:44 pm
by kreuzberger
How do these people even begin with the idea that 15-minute cities are a "bad thing"?
It's like free ice-cream for grown-ups and where their commercial property mates find attractive, sustainable uses for their otherwise moribund investments.
Oh, I get it. "Labour will ban taxis", or something.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:17 am
by Youngian
Labour want councils to watch you on CCTV to tell you how many times you can go to the shops, according to transport secretary Mark Harper. 15 minute cities is a batshit culture war conspiracy theory and that was a Tory minister’s attempt to make it sound saner.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 8:35 am
by Andy McDandy
Meanwhile police minister Chris Philp is suggesting granting police access to the national passport database, footage from door cams, and loads more. But that's OK because it's just for pointing out baddies.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:30 am
by Boiler
This'll be the same Chris Philp that's in a Facebook group that praises people who vandalise ULEZ cameras, yes?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66939644
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:45 am
by Watchman
Yes
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 9:59 am
by RedSparrows
Fuck me the density, fucking neutron stars got nothing on this lot.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:12 am
by Boiler
The BBC explains what 15 minute cities are... and the twattery around them.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66990302
Again, it seems to be something extreme petrol heads rail against. I was thinking this morning, as I was lying in bed and my neighbour fired up his sporty Jaguar, how much I shall relish the silence of a Renault Zoe...
I really, REALLY want the Tories gone but I am terrified that, spurred on by the socials that they will either win again or at the very least, the poison of their culture wars will continue spreading.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:35 am
by Boiler
Meanwhile...
I'm going to bury myself in model trains, I can't take this shit any more.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 10:49 am
by Yug
There's the annual salary of two nurses gone, right there
EXCLUSIVE: Health Secretary spends £55,000 on virtual tours of 40 new hospitals that don't exist
Steve Barclay is putting on roadshows across the country to give the public the chance to put on headsets and pretend they’re getting treated in the new facilities
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... 081972.amp
The Party of fiscal responsibility has given up any attempts to spend money responsibly.
It might be 'only' £55,000, but it's £55,000 more than actually needs to be spent on this.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2023 11:15 am
by Andy McDandy
I hope the tour begins with Jim Bowen (yes I know, he's dead) saying "And here's what you could have won".