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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:01 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yep. Facebook seems to be a fairly over 50 and "localist' (ie "Labour Opposition have stopped pot holes being fixed") thing as it is.

Got to be space for a non-Trump challenger.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Weeping Angel wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:24 pm ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet


It seems to be making a positive difference

That seems almost too good to be true, but very encouraging.

Much as I liked Seinfeld, I didn't really get why they were driving round all the time. Even in early 90s New York.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:05 pm
by Bones McCoy
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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 11:54 am
by Rosvanian
Seen the news and the fires in California and the MAGA reaction. Trump has called the Governor of California 'Newscum' and his supporters are overjoyed at the sight of Hollywood in flames. America. Fuck, yeah.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:03 pm
by RedSparrows
Musk and co gleefully blaming 'DEI' because... California has some measures to ensure diversity in employment processes, which means... um... 100% of fire department effort is directed at that, apparnetly, and so... uh...

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:40 pm
by Philip Marlow
Fetterman keeps getting himself represented as a no-nonsense working class hero because he wears hoodies in public. In the wake of his Gaza nonsense and now this about the best thing you can say about him is that he prevented Dr. Oz becoming a senator.


Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:51 pm
by Bones McCoy
Meanwhile well-heeled libertarians be like:

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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2025 7:00 pm
by Philip Marlow
Luigi Mangione, that you should be at liberty on this day.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:14 am
by The Weeping Angel
Unfortunetly the trust fund baby is currently banged up in New York.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:46 am
by Philip Marlow
As we keep being told, let not the perfect be the enemy of the good.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:55 am
by The Weeping Angel
Yeah and as I pointed out Luigi Mangione ain't no hero. Also if Luigi Mangione were a middle aged balding man with a beer belly there's no way he'd be considered a hero.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:17 am
by The Weeping Angel
Trump really has managed to break so many people's brains it really is something to behold

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... ign-policy
Meanwhile, in the last few weeks before the election, the Trump campaign noticeably leaned into an anti-war message, with JD Vance making the rounds hailing the now president-elect as a “candidate of peace”. A brief review of Trump’s first administration should make clear how ridiculous such a claim was, as he brought the US to the brink of wars with North Korea and Iran, spurned efforts by Congress to reassert authority over military action, and arguably helped set the stage for the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. His recent suggestion that the US could use force to seize the Panama Canal and Greenland should put permanently to bed the idea that he is “anti-war” or “anti-imperialist” in any sense.

But it was even more baffling that Democrats had left the anti-war lane wide open for him by leaning into a tired, curdled militarism as a substitute for an actual foreign policy vision. In foreign policy as elsewhere, Democrats positioned themselves as defenders of a set of ideas and assumptions that most Americans no longer trust. As Trump takes office and Democrats prepare to enter the political wilderness, we need to reckon with how they got this so wrong.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:39 am
by Youngian
Republican isolationists have a long tradition of tapping into peacenik sentiments. More recently Ron Paul but most notably the Elon Musk of the 30s Charles Lindbergh and his takeover of the 'antiwar' America First Committee
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:17 am
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:55 am Yeah and as I pointed out Luigi Mangione ain't no hero. Also if Luigi Mangione were a middle aged balding man with a beer belly there's no way he'd be considered a hero.
Sure, he’s quite the handsome chap. But if not support then at least understanding for what he did in no way comes solely from the fact he won’t be being played by Danny de Vito in the inevitable biopic.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:01 pm
by Bones McCoy
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:17 am Trump really has managed to break so many people's brains it really is something to behold

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng- ... ign-policy
Meanwhile, in the last few weeks before the election, the Trump campaign noticeably leaned into an anti-war message, with JD Vance making the rounds hailing the now president-elect as a “candidate of peace”. A brief review of Trump’s first administration should make clear how ridiculous such a claim was, as he brought the US to the brink of wars with North Korea and Iran, spurned efforts by Congress to reassert authority over military action, and arguably helped set the stage for the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. His recent suggestion that the US could use force to seize the Panama Canal and Greenland should put permanently to bed the idea that he is “anti-war” or “anti-imperialist” in any sense.

But it was even more baffling that Democrats had left the anti-war lane wide open for him by leaning into a tired, curdled militarism as a substitute for an actual foreign policy vision. In foreign policy as elsewhere, Democrats positioned themselves as defenders of a set of ideas and assumptions that most Americans no longer trust. As Trump takes office and Democrats prepare to enter the political wilderness, we need to reckon with how they got this so wrong.

“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:31 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Crabcakes wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:17 am
The Weeping Angel wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:55 am Yeah and as I pointed out Luigi Mangione ain't no hero. Also if Luigi Mangione were a middle aged balding man with a beer belly there's no way he'd be considered a hero.
Sure, he’s quite the handsome chap. But if not support then at least understanding for what he did in no way comes solely from the fact he won’t be being played by Danny de Vito in the inevitable biopic.
They've already got a major motion picture in the works.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:45 pm
by Abernathy
Always a "major" motion picture isn't it? Does nobody ever make a minor film ?

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:09 pm
by Crabcakes
Abernathy wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:45 pm Always a "major" motion picture isn't it? Does nobody ever make a minor film ?
“Now a major flop you can see on Netflix in 2 weeks!”

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:42 pm
by Killer Whale
Abernathy wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:45 pm Always a "major" motion picture isn't it? Does nobody ever make a minor film ?
Just as any muddy swamp becomes 'prime' agricultural land when someone wants to build some houses or a solar farm.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Abernathy wrote: Fri Jan 10, 2025 12:45 pm Always a "major" motion picture isn't it? Does nobody ever make a minor film ?
There's a group of people who make very low budget British gangster films. These are minor DVDs let alone minor motion pictures. One particular pair of charmers are known for not paying people and almost getting one of their actresses decapitated by an exploding door.