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Phil Moorhouse has an interesting take on the politics of the RAAC crisis :

Every day we are subjected to another fuck up (the ones that make it to the public domain), by this so called government. I feel I can no longer react on a daily basis, to these venal, ignorant, empathy lacking cunts who despise 90% of the people they are supposed to represent, so I’ll say once and for time: I hate these fuckers

Funny YouTube person Matt Green has done a video about Great British National Service.

Yeah, great. Wasn't there supposed to be another well connected HS2 station though? When's that getting done?

Merriman is one of the brighter ones. He must know how ridiculous all this is. We're postponing Euston and doing it more expensively just so that some numbers fall the right side of an OBR estimate several years ahead.

PM4PM. This’ll be a distinctive pitch in a leadership contest against Braverman whose instinct is to blame everyone else for her failure.

The belief in taking personal responsibility for yourself and others, is what took me into politics. I believe it defines Conservativism. Socialism dilutes personal responsibility. Conservatism concentrates it. A responsible state needs responsible citizens.
I’ve often thought about what makes someone take personal responsibility. For some, it’s a necessity. For others, it’s personal pride. For me, it’s duty. You can’t grow up in a naval town and not understand this. https://www.pennymordaunt.com/we-are-a- ... eneration/

Has Penny been asleep for the last decade.

I, for one, have noticed a regular stream of "woke liberal establishment causing our incompetence".

It's that particular Tory brand of responsibility. Claim credit for the good stuff, and for the bad, "OK, I'm sorry, alright! Can I go now?".

I don’t think Penny has got a full grasp of what socialism actually is. As for personal responsibility, she may need to review the behaviour of some of her current and former colleagues.
Turning to her naval analogy, although I’m not sure what her actual point is; surely military units act as one not the “concentrated” personal responsibility, put a Tory in such a position: under fire, well my personal responsibility is to save my skin and fuck the rest of you

You are fighting for the blokes in your platoon, they are fighting for you. Sounds pretty Lefty to me.

Why did she think there was a Labour landslide in 1945?

Ha ha, "growing up in a naval town"?

I mean, sure, trace your worldview to your family, school, or whatever. But bit of a stretch to trace it to you town, I reckon. "Growing up in Cheltenham, I'm naturally a very good horserider".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... ishi-sunak

Tories believe Rishi is their secret weapon to beat Labour in next election

and elsewhere (in the same paper ):

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... tee-brexit

Rebel Tory MPs plotting to overthrow Sunak with no confidence vote after Brexit U-turn

They really don't know whether they need a shite or a haircut, do they ?

Nick Timothy, now with a safe seat lined up, in philosopher king mode. I've got a funny idea he didn't tell West Suffolk Tories that they needed to pay more tax and allow a load more house building to facilitate this vision. I don't know what he means by "countering" tax evasion- much bigger HMRC asking more personal questions? I mean, fair enough, but I'm guessing this wasn't something he stressed in the selection meeting either.

Capitalism's fine until the wrong sort of people start making money. Meanwhile, gymslip mums, absentee fathers, chavs having too many babies, look after your mum, she's the only one you've got, stop asking for stuff, young people today, stop encouraging the gays, let's all be a bit more judgemental and parochial.

Fucking useless wanker.

We need to stop asking what others can do for us, and start asking what we can do for others.

Spot on. That's exactly what the Tories need to do. If they'd been doing that for the last 13 years then maybe they wouldn't be in quite so much shit now.

But, selfish cunts will be selfish cunts.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 03, 2023 10:41 pm https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... ishi-sunak

Tories believe Rishi is their secret weapon to beat Labour in next election

Apart from anything else, you have to question the minds behind the thinking that the actual prime minister - who has been in a high-profile cabinet role for some years now - is in any way a ‘secret’ weapon.

Unless it’s just some sort of lost in translation issue, and rather than secret weapon they meant ‘reclusive tool’.

He's not widely seen as a hateful bastard - more like someone who's horribly out of his depth and out of ideas. Sympathy vote would be my guess.

We need to stop asking what others can do for us, and start asking what we can do for others.

Re Mr Timothy's "words of wisdom"; (apart from paraphrasing a real statesman) I'm assume this comment doesn't include such woke activities as working for a charity that helps immigrants, working at a foodbank, being a fireman, policeman, lifeboatman, a lefty lawyer, etc etc

This reads just like a more subtle follow on for the call for the "New National Service" scheme, trying to make it sound a bit more palatable

I read it as more Big Society bollocks - stand on your own feet because we're pulling the rug out. Don't expect the government to sort things because it's now your job. Plucky amateurs beat experts every time. All you need is the get up and go factor. Look at those poor and thick people taking your money. Nothing new at all.

"There is no such thing as society."