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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 11:22 am
by Bones McCoy
mattomac wrote: Tue Aug 29, 2023 1:14 am I assume the government would fund this, otherwise it’s more wasted resource.
Oh no, Danny thinks they'll do it as an internship, with the Bank of Mum and Dad paying your keep.

If it was good enough for him ...

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:33 am
by Boiler
Party of law and order, folks.

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Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:48 am
by satnav
There does seem to be a great deal of hypocrisy on the right at the moment, IDS and co. regularly attack Stop Oil and Extinction rebellion but they are more than happy to support the vandals trying to sabotage ULEZ.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:28 am
by Boiler
Well, all this seems to have led to the planned central London ZEZ being scrapped:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-66647266

(Don't read the comments)

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:06 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Seems like that scheme existed in the same way Crossrail 2 exists- ie there is no scheme, beyond being mentioned in some old strategy documents.

So not that much of a story.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 4:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Well, indeed.

As ever, I notice the Tories got away without too much "How you paying for this?" Labour have committed to it to, so "how are you paying for it?" may be making a come back in 2025. Sunak will probably announce massive tax cuts and still get away without any questions.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:24 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
IDS has been in serious mode lately, acting the sage China head. And yet.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:26 pm
by Boiler
Susan Hall this time.

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/08/30/cons ... of-empire/
Susan Hall has thrown her weight behind Restore Trust, which has been highly critical of the National Trust’s efforts to add historical context to buildings and land it owns which were linked to Britain’s role in slavery.

In a tweet posted this month, Hall said: “History can teach us so much about our place in the world and how we build a better future. We shouldn’t deny this to future generations by rewriting it or removing statues. We cannot let our heritage be torn apart by today’s divisive politics”.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:48 pm
by Yug
We shouldn’t deny this to future generations by rewriting it or removing statues. We cannot let our heritage be torn apart by today’s divisive politics”.
Considering history was rewritten by her sort to deny future generations the truth, rewriting it to put the truth back in isn't denying anybody anything. And who are the architects and main practitioners of today's divisive politics?

More bollocks from yet another lying Tory cunt.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Boiler wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 5:26 pm Susan Hall this time.

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/08/30/cons ... of-empire/
Susan Hall has thrown her weight behind Restore Trust, which has been highly critical of the National Trust’s efforts to add historical context to buildings and land it owns which were linked to Britain’s role in slavery.

In a tweet posted this month, Hall said: “History can teach us so much about our place in the world and how we build a better future. We shouldn’t deny this to future generations by rewriting it or removing statues. We cannot let our heritage be torn apart by today’s divisive politics”.
Is she running for Mayor of London, or Governor of South Carolina?

Information is "tearing apart heritage". That's the attitude that's going to get the educated and ambitious in her column.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 10:53 am
by Watchman
The new Sec for Energy; if we have a hard winter, fuel bills still this side of stupid, I’m sure she’s going to bring the energy companies into line

Claire Coutinho has been confirmed as the new energy secretary, replacing Grant Shapps.

Here is a little bit about her:

Studied maths and philosophy at Oxford University
Worked at Merrill Lynch before moving to the think tank, the Centre for Social Justice
Elected Conservative MP for East Surrey in December 2019
A close ally of Prime Minister Rishi Sunak
Worked as a special adviser in the Treasury
Served as minister for disabled people and minister for children in the education department
Contestant on Channel 4 cooking game show The Taste, involving Nigella Lawson, in 2014

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 11:06 am
by Andy McDandy
Very much what Terry Pratchett referred to as an "Interchangeable Emma".

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I think they’ll struggle to get through the election, without a much wider energy package. Presume that Labour can just say « proper windfall tax ». Sure they said that before with other spending, but they can say »this is what they can do now ». And quite right.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 1:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Coutihno at least doesn't seem to bang on about toilets as much as some other high flyers. I actually give some credit to Shapps on that score too.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:29 pm
by Bones McCoy
Somebody who can do sums is a welcome additions to a largely innumerate government.

Are those Centre for Social Justice types the warriors we're always told to hate.
Or are they some kind of cosplay Judge Dredd walts?

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 2:39 pm
by Bones McCoy
Academic freedom: A cause celebre for Tories - until it becomes inconvenient.


Antoinette Sandbach: Ex-MP asks to be removed from slavery research

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-66648763
A former Conservative MP has asked to be removed from an award-winning academic's research presented in a TEDx Talk that connects her to a slave-owning ancestor, the BBC can reveal.

Malik Al Nasir named Antoinette Sandbach as a descendant of Samuel Sandbach in a video published in 2021.

The Liverpool merchant had a stake in plantations in the West Indies.

Ms Sandbach argues there is no public interest in identifying her as his descendant.

An early example of massive public money going to the already well-heeled.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 3:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I was surprised at this. Clearly, she's no Richard Drax, having walked out of the Tories in 2019 over the Kipper bollocks, effectively giving up her career.

She offers a defence in this thread. She's saying the issue is data breaches, but seems to be a typo in the thread, so don't understand it. But I'm sure she's aware of "Streisand", so maybe a genuine issue. In fairness to her, she's had death threats (doubtless over Brexit), so might well be a bit sensitive.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 7:24 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
All over the details, as ever. These were banned 7 years ago.


Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 8:02 pm
by Youngian
My garden saw from B&Q looks just as nasty as them. Just as well as summer drought never materialised and my garden looked like Borneo.

Re: Conservatives Generally

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2023 9:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
More 3D chess, this time from Gillian Keegan.

Not unknown for lists like this to be leaked. Failing that, the Guardian, Mirror, FT, BBC say "Is your school affected? Let us know". And pissed off school managers, pupils, teachers, parents do exactly that. Sort of story that might build nicely. Day 1, we've got 50 the government won't tell you about. Day 2, Day 3 etc. Hopefully with some nice footage of Keegan and Sunak running away from reporters.