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Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:04 pm
by Crabcakes
Christ on a bike. Braverman finally managed to say something, and it blamed the victims.


Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:50 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
And amplified something she doesn't even know is true.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:19 am
by mattomac
She has also said some, it has been suggested it is one.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:29 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
That was the story in the early reports.

So she's deliberately winding it up.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 10:53 am
by Youngian
Reads like Sinn Fein condemnation of a botched IRA operation. ‘We regret horses were blown up as a consequence of the British military occupation of the six counties.’

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 pm
by Yug
Funny how those "out of touch"™ "enemies of the people"™ always seem to be on the side of the good guys. It's like the government keeps trying to break the law, or something.


A High Court judgement that regulations affecting more than 2.5m EU citizens living in the UK are unlawful will not be challenged by the government.

The Home Office has confirmed it will not appeal against the ruling, despite previously indicating it would do so.

Many EU citizens could have faced losing their right to residence if they did not further apply for settled or pre-settled status within five years.

The case was brought by a watchdog for EU citizens' rights after Brexit.

The watchdog Independent Monitoring Authority (IMA) was supported by the European Commission and the3million, a group representing EU citizens in the UK. It said the High Court ruling had "averted a ticking time bomb"...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64663795.amp

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:03 pm
by Dalem Lake
'Avin a whinge. What's she going to do if he does decide to ditch it? Resign (again)? We can only hope.
Suella Braverman urges Sunak not to ditch Northern Ireland protocol bill

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:35 am
by Youngian
Yug wrote: Thu Feb 16, 2023 5:16 pm Funny how those "out of touch"™ "enemies of the people"™ always seem to be on the side of the good guys. It's like the government keeps trying to break the law, or something.


A High Court judgement that regulations affecting more than 2.5m EU citizens living in the UK are unlawful will not be challenged by the government.

The Home Office has confirmed it will not appeal against the ruling, despite previously indicating it would do so.

Many EU citizens could have faced losing their right to residence if they did not further apply for settled or pre-settled status within five years.

The case was brought by a watchdog for EU citizens' rights after Brexit.

The watchdog Independent Monitoring Authority (IMA) was supported by the European Commission and the3million, a group representing EU citizens in the UK. It said the High Court ruling had "averted a ticking time bomb"...

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64663795.amp
This is tremendous news to halt the pointless misery EU citizens went through. And most know from their Leave voting work colleagues why the government isn’t pursuing this one; “Oh, we didn’t mean you.”

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:31 am
by Yug
The out-of-touch unelected upper house does it again

Proposed legislation aimed at curbing tactics used by protest groups has suffered eight defeats in the House of Lords.

Peers rejected key measures of the controversial public order bill, including ditching a measure to let police exercise stop and search without suspicion to tackle disruptive demonstrations.

In other setbacks for the government during the bill’s passage through the upper chamber, peers backed restrictions on the use of protest banning orders and removed a provision that would have allowed the sanction to be imposed against people who had not been convicted of any offence.

A separate government attempt aimed at cracking down on disruption caused by protesters slow marching was also rejected by peers. However, as the measure was only introduced when the bill reached the Lords, it cannot return as it was not in the original legislation passed by MPs...

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... e-of-lords
At a time when trust in the police is at its lowest point since Robert Peel was Home Secretary, giving coppers sweeping powers to harass and sanction innocent people probably wouldn't have increased said trust, not was it likely to win many votes for the Tories.

I thought they were supposed to be the UK Home Office, not the RSHA

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reich_S ... ain_Office

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:07 am
by Andy McDandy
A while ago someone neatly summed up incels, pickup artists and such as people convinced that there are cheat codes to life and all you need to do is find them.

I'd extend that metaphor, and say that there are politicians, Braverman a great example of them, who think that life's a computer game, and there's a "sorry" button. And that all they have to do is click it and move on.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 11:16 am
by Crabcakes
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:07 am A while ago someone neatly summed up incels, pickup artists and such as people convinced that there are cheat codes to life and all you need to do is find them.

I'd extend that metaphor, and say that there are politicians, Braverman a great example of them, who think that life's a computer game, and there's a "sorry" button. And that all they have to do is click it and move on.
‘Press [F] to pay respects’ made real

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 1:51 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2023 3:05 pm
by Crabcakes
Saying housing asylum seekers puts pressure on communities isn’t racist or bigoted in itself, I’ll give her that. The problem is, she’s deliberately putting asylum seekers in situations where their presence puts pressure on already underfunded local communities through policies of deliberately slow and overcomplicated claim processing and then pushing people waiting for processing out into hotels and b&bs where they can’t work or contribute, then blaming the asylum seekers for not being processed in good time. And further, then doing nothing about the racists and bigots who turn up to cause grief because they don’t care the issue is her policies, they just want a fight.

So the real question should have been why she’s pursuing policies that cause the maximum friction and encouraging racists and bigots with her ham-fisted language, but strangely GB News didn’t feel compelled to ask that…

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:42 pm
by mattomac

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
We’ve been talking about that on the general Tory thread. Fair dos, this is the right one.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:14 am
by kreuzberger
Time for a sublime twitter response;


Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2023 10:51 am
by Yug
Surge in number of Britons fighting to hold on to their citizenship


At least 75 people successfully overturned Home Office orders to strip them of their British citizenship last year, according to records obtained by the Observer, which reveal a dramatic increase in challenges to the government’s use of the controversial powers.

On Wednesday, Shamima Begum, 23, lost her appeal against the Home Office’s decision to remove her British citizenship and is stranded in Syria, barred from returning to the UK.

New figures show that, between January and September 2022, there were 354 other legal challenges against the government’s citizenship deprivation orders, less than a fifth of which were successful. The figures, by far the highest on record, suggest a steep increase in these orders.

Last week’s decision by the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Siac) to reject the appeal by Begum, who left the UK aged 15 to join Islamic State, continues to prompt outrage.

Yesterday, a former intelligence officer for the Canadian security services, which employed a double agent to smuggle Begum into Isis territory, condemned it as a “travesty of justice”.

Huda Mukbil, who worked with MI5, said the verdict defied belief. “They even recognise she was a child and was trafficked into Syria; there was a breach of duty on behalf of the state [the UK] to make sure she doesn’t leave the country,” she said.

Concern has been rising after the government introduced reforms, making it easier to strip people of their citizenship without warning, in the Nationality and Borders Act, which received royal assent last April...
I should be shocked, but nothing this racist government does is particularly shocking any more.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 1:50 pm
by Crabcakes
So: not legal, not costed, not workable and no timetable.

Literally a non-policy designed to whip people up and queue up the big Tory election promise for 2024 of withdrawing from the ECHR so they can really shaft everyone.


Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:04 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
She's attacked Labour for naively thinking everybody who arrives has fled persecution. Absolutely pathetic stuff.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 5:26 pm
by kreuzberger
Smirking and sneering with a curious brand of caustic arrogance that you are trying, again, to flout internation law. I have a question.

How can that be reconcilled by the party of "law and order"?