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Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:37 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Leslie still talls more sense than Matt here.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:42 pm
by Crabcakes
I don't even understand that one. Is there supposed to be a pic of someone with a crash helmet in there somewhere?
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:59 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Calling someone a helmet is what middle class person calls someone when they want to sound hard and tough.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:39 pm
by Crabcakes
The Weeping Angel wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:59 pm
Calling someone a helmet is what middle class person calls someone when they want to sound hard and tough.
Oh, I was reading even more into it than it even said - I thought the bit about Jez having a motorbike was linked to the helmet bit.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:04 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
You'll be amazed to hear that Andrew Feinstein isn't romping home in Holborn and Pancras.
Looking like a proper vanity run. If it's about Gaza, don't the Greens have the same policy? Why not support them?
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 6:45 pm
by davidjay
Fake news.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2024 11:30 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:39 am
by Crabcakes
This is a really good interview with Starmer in the Guardian. And one thing strikes me about it: he has a strong record of actually helping people, even when there were no cameras, when there were no peers to impress, and no money or promotion in it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... SApp_Other
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 11:46 am
by RedSparrows
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:39 am
This is a really good interview with Starmer in the Guardian. And one thing strikes me about it: he has a strong record of actually helping people, even when there were no cameras, when there were no peers to impress, and no money or promotion in it.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ar ... SApp_Other
The fact he worked for and with clients such as climate activists and miners and death-row Jamaicans is interesting - I didn't know. That's commitment, and actually effecting change. I didn't know because he's not been beatified like St Jez the placardist.
I'm not a great fan of Starmer, nor am I great fan of the abdication to the central seething problem of British politics, rather than the challenging of it: the conceit that drives 'what people think' on immigration, economics, climate etc, the toxic grip the Mail and co have and *how* they have it. But I get it. It's a shit game, but it's the game.
But the fact he actually has done stuff to help people, and not just little stuff, is important.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 4:55 pm
by Samanfur
I'm currently reading Tom Baldwin's biography of Starmer. I'm only about one third of the way through (into his pupil days as a lawyer), but there's a lot of that.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2024 6:31 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Famously, Starmer's repositioning of Labour has been in the direction of leftwing mobs.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 1:22 am
by mattomac
Staunch Labour he was backing Jeremy Hunt in the 2019 Conservative leadership election.
Evidently flounced off after he lost a candidate election in 2010 and grifted to the right.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:27 am
by Crabcakes
Off topic and I don’t mean to get personal, but my god that man’s head is a near perfect egg shape.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:35 am
by Abernathy
I'm getting a strange urge to bash him on the bonce with the back of a spoon.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:58 pm
by Bones McCoy
Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:35 am
I'm getting a strange urge to bash him on the bonce with the back of a spoon.
Poor chap.
Maybe the first columnist whose actual photograph looks like AI "art".
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 2:05 pm
by Crabcakes
This is a really good podcast on who (bar something utterly freakish) will be PM on Friday afternoon.
I think the key takeaway is that he has literally saved people’s lives, when it wasn’t glamorous or helpful to him - in terms of career or attention - to do so. And to make the obvious comparison, he has led a life of getting on and doing it even when it’s been a hard job, as opposed to his predecessor who just wanted to complain and be congratulated for it, or the last 3 of his opposite numbers who have been self-entitled, lazy, stupid wasters.
I think we’re going to be in safe hands.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/o ... 0660203835
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:48 pm
by Youngian
This plonker is the Express’s senior political correspondent giving a take completely irrelevant to what Keir is saying.
It might have been News Agents or a similar podcast commenting on how irrelevant the once all powerful press barons are to this election. It feels good.
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:04 pm
by slilley
Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2024 5:48 pm
This plonker is the Express’s senior political correspondent giving a take completely irrelevant to what Keir is saying.
It might have been News Agents or a similar podcast commenting on how irrelevant the once all powerful press barons are to this election. It feels good.
I agree with Starmer. He needs to make time away from the job, and whether he is the PM or not he is still a father. Yes there will be times when he may well need to work long hours, act of terrorism for example. I want my Prime Minister and his or her cabinet to take major decisions with a clear mind and properly rested.
There are plenty of examples in history of people making bad decisions whilst exhausted. Working 24/7 is not a good idea. Churchill went to bed during the war after all!!
Simon
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:14 pm
by RedSparrows
There's also that small bit of life not being work. Not just for what it is, in and of itself (family, friends, etc), but the need to take a brief step outside any context you're in for too much of the time. Might actually help.
I would also assume he'll find it bloody hard to achieve...
Re: Keir Starmer
Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2024 6:16 pm
by Abernathy
Sunak’s full of bullshit anyway. He ‘s only claiming to work “24/7” because he thinks it’ll impress a few more gullible twats. In reality, he’s probably doing no more than PM Starmer would.