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Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 1:18 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Lineker having famously never criticised Qatar. And tax dodging? Do Matt's mates on the populist right cough up more tax than they have to? Do they have luxury beliefs they don't have to live with, at all?


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:16 pm
by Youngian
I thought the main problem with metropolitan areas is that it’s full of ‘em. Is Gary part of a different elite?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 2:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Gary lives in Barnes, so probably not too many of em round there. Then again he has had a couple live in his house, so that probably counts. That's two more than the number of homeless veterans that Matt has put up,, I reckon.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 2:30 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:02 am
by mattomac
Anyone see his latest definition of the New elite.

Basically most of it boiled down to the old elite, bar the new elite are less likely to be male, white, racist.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:39 am
by Youngian
Matt’s pitch to the Barnsley Chronicle on the wonders of Trussonomics wasn’t commissioned then?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2023 10:41 am
by Andy McDandy
It all boils down to the cool kids whose parties they don' get invited to.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:28 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Well indeed. Very close to "not properly black".

And anyway, Stephen Bush went to a comprehensive in Bethnal Green.


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 3:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I think it's pretty clear from the tweets that Matt doesn't care very much about economics at all. And whatever Lexit twattery he's managed to chuck together for his book is unlikely to change my mind. "Mexicans taking your job" seems like an all too convenient fit.


Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:16 pm
by Youngian
Can’t be bothered to read Matt’s views on why the nation state can counterbalance the power of ‘hyperglobalisation’ better than a regional block. He should stick to his core subjects like complaining about too many black actors and lefties working on Doctor Who.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:33 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
He must be apoplectic at the new trade deal with foreigners on the other side of the world.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 4:45 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Oh man, it gets worse.



List of Prime Ministers by Education here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_p ... _education

From Walpole onwards, they overwhelmingly attend university, particularly Oxford.

Brave call to put Emma Watson in the elite, ahead of Paul Dacre too.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:36 pm
by davidjay
Old elite - Tory. New elite - Not Tory.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:49 pm
by Andy McDandy
New elite = clever bastards, so it seems.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:51 pm
by Yug
..."small c" cultural values...
Does this actually mean anything, or is Mattie just plucking waffle from his arse again?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:01 pm
by Bones McCoy
Andy McDandy wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:49 pm New elite = clever bastards, so it seems.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yug wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:51 pm
..."small c" cultural values...
Does this actually mean anything, or is Mattie just plucking waffle from his arse again?
He left the word "conservative" out, I think.

Anyway, why is he so sure about this? Did the Regency rakes in his cartoon history world have small c cultural values?

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 6:49 pm
by Youngian
How are the educated middle classes the elite, aren’t they middle class? And when did they gain control of means of production, distribution and exchange? As economic leftists like me and Matt define the elite.

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 7:00 pm
by Andy McDandy
Yug wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:51 pm
..."small c" cultural values...
Does this actually mean anything, or is Mattie just plucking waffle from his arse again?
It means "nothing against them gays but that's going a bit far".

Re: Matthew Goodwin

Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2023 10:56 pm
by MisterMuncher
Andy McDandy wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:49 pm New elite = clever bastards, so it seems.
It's not unlike (in that it's functionally identical) to noted loyalist ballbag Jamie Bryson's thesis that the Fenians have captured the levers of power in Northern Ireland by the insidious subterfuge of getting educated and getting jobs.