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kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:03 pm https://www.google.com/search?q=starmer ... 0&bih=1240

Seems to be quite a few people aware of his need to stick flags everywhere, even without the leaked memo.

I thought you'd fucked off into well deserved obscurity...

@kettle Name a country which doesn't have a flag.

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 3:03 pm https://www.google.com/search?q=starmer ... 0&bih=1240

Seems to be quite a few people aware of his need to stick flags everywhere, even without the leaked memo.

I can see straight away, lots of those are the same occasion. And that others are people talking about the memo.

The idea it should be controversial that Labour looks like it wants to lead the country it's running to lead ought not to be controversial.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:24 pm I can see straight away, lots of those are the same occasion. And that others are people talking about the memo.

The idea it should be controversial that Labour looks like it wants to lead the country it's running to lead ought not to be controversial.

The problem is Starmer is running Labour's chances of winning elections on
a) Not being the Tories
b) Not doing anything to upset Tory voters
c) Flags. It is just as crass and insincere when the Tories do it.

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:22 pm c) Flags. It is just as crass and insincere when the Tories do it.

Is it crass and insincere when Mahmoud Abbas (or other national leaders) appear with their flags?

Alan Partridge took ride in a Spitfire this week; “Up here you can be proud to be British without the lefties tut tutting.”

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:22 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 4:24 pm I can see straight away, lots of those are the same occasion. And that others are people talking about the memo.

The idea it should be controversial that Labour looks like it wants to lead the country it's running to lead ought not to be controversial.

The problem is Starmer is running Labour's chances of winning elections on
a) Not being the Tories
b) Not doing anything to upset Tory voters
c) Flags. It is just as crass and insincere when the Tories do it.

You still haven't shown me this fatal excess of flags.

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:55 pm

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:22 pm c) Flags. It is just as crass and insincere when the Tories do it.

Is it crass and insincere when Mahmoud Abbas (or other national leaders) appear with their flags?

MPs are appearing with the flag or pictures of the queen in the background of TV interviews. This isn't something we do as a culture. It is crass.

This outbreak of flag inflation is not only crass but insecure hubris for a flag that may not even exist by the end of the decade.

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:55 pm

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:22 pm c) Flags. It is just as crass and insincere when the Tories do it.

Is it crass and insincere when Mahmoud Abbas (or other national leaders) appear with their flags?

MPs are appearing with the flag or pictures of the queen in the background of TV interviews. This isn't something we do as a culture. It is crass.

It may be something that you don't do, or I don't do, but please remember (or realise for the first time) that we are not the whole electorate.

You can't complain that the right have hijacked the flag when you've given it to them

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:55 pm

kettle wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:22 pm c) Flags. It is just as crass and insincere when the Tories do it.

Is it crass and insincere when Mahmoud Abbas (or other national leaders) appear with their flags?

MPs are appearing with the flag or pictures of the queen in the background of TV interviews. This isn't something we do as a culture. It is crass.

So it's only bad when British politicians do it?

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:13 pm

It may be something that you don't do, or I don't do, but please remember (or realise for the first time) that we are not the whole electorate.

Yep. See also "we don't do this in this country". We certainly haven't, but things like that can change. While I don't think "where's the flags in this report?" (James Wild MP) will ever stop being ridiculous, the PM appearing at a press conference with a flag will probably become standard.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:38 am

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 9:13 pm

It may be something that you don't do, or I don't do, but please remember (or realise for the first time) that we are not the whole electorate.

Yep. See also "we don't do this in this country". We certainly haven't, but things like that can change. While I don't think "where's the flags in this report?" (James Wild MP) will ever stop being ridiculous, the PM appearing at a press conference with a flag will probably become standard.

Just like America, and I wonder how long before they have to be publicly Christian as well?

Howard Beckett seems to be talking up his momentum, with the very online left getting stuck in behind him. He couldn't win, could he?

Steve Turner, who beat Beckett to the left nomination, is tweeting about the day job. I hope Turner knows what he's doing here.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:00 pm Howard Beckett seems to be talking up his momentum, with the very online left getting stuck in behind him. He couldn't win, could he?

Steve Turner, who beat Beckett to the left nomination, is tweeting about the day job. I hope Turner knows what he's doing here.

I saw him on Newsnight he came across as arrogant and condescending. The good news is the left vote is split three ways between Steve Turner, Sharon Graham and Howard Beckett.

How fraternal of Beckett to run v Turner.

The devil also whispered you spaffed millions of Unite member's money on a pointless legal case against a Labour MP.

…in a teacup.

Labour got 622 votes in Chesham and Amersham.