Mailwatch(ed) Forum

No sign of the Tories war with the BBC abating with the change of leader.

When Johnson won the Tory leadership election he did so without making too many policy pledges. The only big commitment he made was to 'Get Brexit done.' Truss however seems to have made numerous commitments many of which will be hard to deliver in the short-term. While Truss may enjoy a small bounce on becoming Prime Minister it is hard to see the bounce will last for long especially if she fails to deliver on her various commitments.

The emergency budget will only serve as a sticking plaster in terms of the cost of living crisis. Her commitment to create extra sources of energy will take years to delivery and certainly won't come about before the next general election.

You know, I have a feeling that Truss’s “emergency budget” is going to be hopelessly inadequate. People are going to suffer, but it’ll hasten the Tories’ demise.

I might even go further and suggest that for most voters, the Tories are getting very close to the point of no return, which is to say the point at which most voters have cemented in an irrevocable decision that whenever the election comes, they are going to vote to make sure this appalling bunch of shysters is thrown out of office. I think that the last time such a watershed was arrived at was late 1996, and the first quarter of 1997.

I’m probably wrong, but fuck me, I hope I’m right.

I do think there is a shelf life for governments. The T&H by election on the south west news showed up some major issues that you often got in some of the northern seats with Labour.

It’s natural for America and it is here, Major runs 4 months after in 1992 then Kinnock probably ends it.

The LDs will be more important next election for the first time since 2010. I’m hopeful the shelf life theory holds and I think they would need something far better than what they have to change it.

If that budget doesn’t come even close to easing the pain (and they would probably have to follow Starmer’s lead on stalling the cap rise) then I think it will end up like Sunak’s in April.

It's laugh or you'd cry time.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:36 pm You know, I have a feeling that Truss’s “emergency budget” is going to be hopelessly inadequate. People are going to suffer, but it’ll hasten the Tories’ demise.

I might even go further and suggest that for most voters, the Tories are getting very close to the point of no return, which is to say the point at which most voters have cemented in an irrevocable decision that whenever the election comes, they are going to vote to make sure this appalling bunch of shysters is thrown out of office. I think that the last time such a watershed was arrived at was late 1996, and the first quarter of 1997.

I’m probably wrong, but fuck me, I hope I’m right.

I'm reminded more and more of Roy Hattersley's quote about the lead up to 1997 being like walking down a highly-polished corridor carrying a priceless vase, or similar. The biggest problems are that Starmer isn't as adept at carrying priceless vases as Blair, and he's got more than enough on his own side trying to trip him up.

davidjay wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:49 am It's laugh or you'd cry time.

Well, to be fair to Thick Lizzie, she could hardly do a Jeremy Corbyn and say that she'd never push the annihilation button under any circumstances. She's playing to an electorate of swivel-eyed nutjobs, after all. But she was, shall we say, a trifle enthusiastically brusque.

Come to think of it, given that in that scenario we'd all be fucking toast anyway, I think I prefer Jezza's answer.

It’s the way she sounds like she would do it at the earliest opportunity and not without some sadness or gravity.

Anyhow it seems I may be right about what you see is what you get…

Clueless

Britain lobbying for shite surfing to be added to Olympics.

We have a natural lead in this sport, said a government spokesman.
No nation comes close to our massive coastline of shat seas.

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Are you saying that they are her supporters?………I’ll get my own coat thanks

She's likely home and dry on early voting. But this is not an encouraging trend for her. Hard to see that Sunak's done all that much to claw it back.

Remarkable that by the time she gets in, she may be the first PM that neither the general public, the parliamentary party OR the wider membership don’t want.

Doesn’t suggest a long or popular reign. Does suggest she’ll be the nail in the coffin for the Tories.

Fingers crossed.

Let's hope it's the shitshow we're all expecting.

Diplomatic genius here from current Foreign Secretary and future PM.

She could give herself an easy start as PM; make it illegal for energy companies to disconnect anybody, much in the same way water companies cannot do likewise to defaulting payers. Do what they have to do to collect the money, just don't disconnect. Councils have nothing to disconnect when payers default on council tax. Energy companies can go down the same road as them to collect their money. This wouldn't solve the overriding financial issue, but it would eliminate the worry of many of being disconnected. Or better still, just call a GE.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:45 pm Let's hope it's the shitshow we're all expecting.

I think the only real question now is how big the shitshow will be.