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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:39 pm
by Youngian
Grim thought: 2016 Trump voters not motivated enough to vote against another old white man in 2024 may well be coming out to prevent Harris gaining the White House.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:46 pm
by Crabcakes
Youngian wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 8:39 pm Grim thought: 2016 Trump voters not motivated enough to vote against another old white man in 2024 may well be coming out to prevent Harris gaining the White House.
Positive thought: a lot of that type of voter from 2016 are probably dead from old age now

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:56 am
by Samanfur
Or died from Covid denial.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 4:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Not that it matters, but..


Mark Chadbourn
‪@chadbourn.bsky.social‬
More steady Democratic improvement clear in Cook Political Report’s latest house race rating update:
IA01: Lean R to Toss Up
IA03: Lean R to Toss Up
IL17: Lean D to Likely D
IN01: Lean D to Likely D
MT01: Likely R to Lean R

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2024 8:15 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This is also positive.
Greg Sargent
‪@gregsargent.bsky.social‬
On the stunning new jobs report, I'm not sure people appreciate how big it is that the Harris campaign has fought back to something close to parity on the economy. The new Cook Report poll shows Harris and Trump *even* on inflation!

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2024 3:36 pm
by Bones McCoy
When the news reports shootings, MAGA weirdoes and unhinged political movements.

It's good to remember that America has some awesome people.
And close to the top of that list is Dolly Parton.

Dolly Parton announces $1m donation to Hurricane Helene recovery

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cpdq65185qdo
Music icon Dolly Parton has announced she will make a personal donation of $1m (£762,000) towards disaster recovery efforts in the wake of Hurricane Helene.

Speaking at an event in her home state of Tennessee on Friday, the 78-year-old said the money would come "from my own bank account".

Parton's local commercial ventures - including the Dollywood amusement park - would also donate the same amount to the Mountain Ways Foundation, which is aiding those affected by flooding in the region.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 7:34 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Oh god no.


Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:16 pm
by Abernathy
Sounds interesting. I could do without Johnson, and probably Stormy Daniels, but the rest could be quite entertaining.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:27 pm
by Crabcakes
It might be worth it just to see Johnson’s face fall as his chum Trump goes down, but given how drawn out US elections can be I’m assuming the final tally won’t be in until days later, so seems a bit pointless?

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2024 10:49 pm
by The Weeping Angel
If you're going to do this at least have people who know something about the subject not a load of guests who are there to provide controversy and because the BBC wouldn't book them.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:23 am
by Samanfur
Abernathy wrote: Tue Oct 08, 2024 8:16 pm Sounds interesting. I could do without Johnson, and probably Stormy Daniels, but the rest could be quite entertaining.
Stormy Daniels has been doing a series of shows in the US with a stand-up comedian. She's quite an engaging speaker, and not stupid. I'd be curious to hear her thoughts, but unfortunately, the broadcaster will probably only want to hear about one thing.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:32 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Harris has said she'll put a Republican in the Cabinet, and it's had some bad reaction like this.
Matt Novak
‪@paleofuture.bsky.social‬
Her campaign started with the "fuck you" attitude that signaled the Dems finally understood the post-Trump landscape. And then it transformed into the 1990s playbook like this. I really hope they know what they're doing because I'm skeptical that his gets her even one additional vote on balance.
As others have said though, I think this is a mistaken attitude. Lots of people like bipartisanship where it's possible. It's not "1990's playbook". The Veterans Association brief is something where a sane Republican with military experience could be an asset.

The tradition of bipartisan appointments in the US (admittedly, not always to the Cabinet) is pretty substantial, not at all limited to one era.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U ... arty_lines

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:33 am
by Andy McDandy
Playbook is another word that's on the list.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:59 am
by Crabcakes
I think it’s a clever move, because long term it opens a door back to respectability for any post-Trump Republican with eyes on a presidential run. You can say you served in cabinet, but not in the tartrazine toddler’s clusterfuck thunderdome of an administration.

And short term, it gives those exact same people a very strong reason to not bow down to the MAGA cult. Which weakens Trump further.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Yep. And see here.
Lauren Ashley Davis
‪@laurenmeidasa.bsky.social‬
EXCLUSIVE: Poll Finds Large Chunk of Haley Voters Ready to Ditch Trump

Republican and independent backers of the former U.N. ambassador are far more open to voting Democratic than four years ago.
https://bsky.app/profile/laurenmeidasa. ... 3otrmris2e

When Republicans run in swing races, they generally stress difference from Trump, and outperform him. So there's already something there to work away at.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Wed Oct 09, 2024 10:13 pm
by mattomac
Sort of the whole reason Biden won and then mostly domestically governed from the left was his ability to work across the house.

This is wise by Harris, she ain’t appointing Trump in that position and there are plenty of Republicans who want nothing to do with him.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:59 am
by Tubby Isaacs
And something like the Veterans Association fits pretty well with bipartisanship. It's not like appointing a Trumper to trade who brings in a load of mad tariffs.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:09 pm
by Philip Marlow
I’ll admit that Harris welcoming the endorsements of the Cheneys was giving me proper Hillary Clinton boasting about her friendship with Kissinger vibes, but I don’t suppose it’s likely that she’s going to be appointing Dick as Czar of Torture or letting Liz draw up new waterboarding protocols, so…

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 1:11 pm
by Abernathy
Trump voters (and Marjorie Taylor Green), having already vehemently denied the existence of anthropogenic climate change, are now claiming that the US government is not only changing, but controlling and directing the climate for political reasons.

This stuff really does make you question the true value of universal suffrage.


Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2024 3:41 pm
by Yug
It's also a pretty damning statement on the quality of US education over the last 40 years or so.