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Sorry we fucked up with the NHS, says Tory MP (sort of). Aside from anything else, painting a flag on a wall isn't exactly the most flagrant example of waste I've ever seen. Had a mural of a Union Jack been painted, would that be bad management? In any case, there's a strong argument for the NHS to make a statement about groups with healthcare needs that aren't well understood by lots of people (like Mark Jenkinson).

Bader made widespread use of the "Fokkers" gag, long before Stan Boardman.

I understand Bader's twist on the story was "But those fokkers were flying Messerschmits".

The point of pride logos is to say "You will be treated with dignity and respect here" to people who run a real risk of getting their heads kicked in by morons.

Yep. Even if employers have no particular involvement with trans people, signalling support is important and part of the way you build greater acceptance.

Or, as Mark Jenkinson would probably call it, propaganda.

Fraser Nelson was after this new scourge to free speech, checking facts the other day. I remember chancing across an American article years ago (fact checking in the US is a bigger thing than here) and somebody saying "blah blah it's just who says liberal talking points".

Funny that they've just caught up when a rightwing loon has bought Twitter.

If you signalled the NHS wasn’t for LGBTQ people you’d have an even greater shortage of staff.

This is all they’ve got left, it’s pathetic.

It is. Even somebody who's not particularly LGBTQ friendly isn't going to buy that this is the reason they're waiting for operations.

Yeah, but your auntie's hip operation has been cancelled because the gays are having operations to turn them into girlies...............FACT!!!!!

What lovely people we have in government.

The Conservative MP Bob Stewart has been charged with a racially aggravated public order offence after an incident outside a reception hosted by the Bahraini embassy.

Police launched an investigation into the south London MP after he was confronted by an activist whom he allegedly told: “Go back to Bahrain.”

Stewart, 73, was charged with two offences after the incident on 14 December last year outside the Foreign Office’s Lancaster House in central London.

One charge was of using threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour, which was racially aggravated. The other was of using threatening or abusive words or behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress...

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-offences

It's probably true that the NHS isn't under-funded.

The problem isn't a couple of flag decorations though.

The problem is it being run like the "Restaurant bust out " scene in Goodfellas..
In the film, the mob have taken a share in a restaurant, and we see their men delivering crates of Cutty Sark whisky in through the front door and others unloading it through the back door.

The the UK, a significant proportion of the health budget is unloaded into the pockets of "entrepreneurs" and "connected persons" - Michelle Mone's yacht being a particularly public example.

For any who've not seen it, the film clip is a good example of privatised government service. Water also springs to mind.

A long firm, in criminal parlance.

There are 2 variants; the above in which you secretly take control of an existing business and gut it, and the "classic" in which you create a false identity and use it to start a business before taking out several loans in the name of the nonexistent owner and cashing it all in. Not so easy these days as birth and death records are digitised. But in the 60s and 70s quite a few kids who had died in infancy got a new lease of life managing hooky start-ups and travelling the world moving drugs.

As I recall there were a few dodgy PPE suppliers that turned out to have babies on the board.

And in Mailland the problem is too many managers on middling salaries and too much paperwork.

I think it's underfunded for what we think it should give us. Probably not uniquely among European countries though,

Yug wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:27 pm What lovely people we have in government.

The Conservative MP Bob Stewart has been charged with a racially aggravated public order offence after an incident outside a reception hosted by the Bahraini embassy.

Police launched an investigation into the south London MP after he was confronted by an activist whom he allegedly told: “Go back to Bahrain.”

Stewart, 73, was charged with two offences after the incident on 14 December last year outside the Foreign Office’s Lancaster House in central London.

One charge was of using threatening or abusive words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour, which was racially aggravated. The other was of using threatening or abusive words or behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress...

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... r-offences

He'll be offered his own KGBN slot within the next few days then.

They've given up. You'd expect more to apply in Rhondda than this,

Ha ha.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 6:47 pm They've given up. You'd expect more to apply in Rhondda than this,

You have to remember no one even is thinking of 2029 or even 2034, it’s a prime seat for someone to take and build a name and you’d only do that if you’d be on a high on the next decade.

Flip side is imagine if Sunak somewhat gets away with only losing about 150, that cohort maybe even worse than this lot.

You have to remember no one even is thinking of 2029 or even 2034, it’s a prime seat for someone to take and build a name and you’d only do that if you’d be on a high on the next decade.

Extraordinary that bright young things with an eye on the future aren’t queuing up to contest this seat. Lucky Ipswich can see the Tory future with young Tom Hunt as MP.

Two dropped out?

Thanks for your application. The next stage is vetting. Nothing too heavy at this stage, just a quick check of your socials to check that every third post isn't your Golly dolls collection or sharing something from Britain First. No outstanding criminal actions. That kind of thing.

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Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 7:19 am

You have to remember no one even is thinking of 2029 or even 2034, it’s a prime seat for someone to take and build a name and you’d only do that if you’d be on a high on the next decade.

Extraordinary that bright young things with an eye on the future aren’t queuing up to contest this seat. Lucky Ipswich can see the Tory future with young Tom Hunt as MP.

I think the bright young things are looking at the likes of Darren Grimes.
They'll conclude they can score a more gelt for less shvitz playing influencer for the schnooks.