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Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:43 pm
by kreuzberger
Still hung over and vaxxed out, I took to my chambers this afternoon to listen to the speech.

I haven't heard anything like this in decades - an island teeming with fairness, opportunity, a viable plan, and rid of the liars and thieves, it almost made me want to live there.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:15 pm
by Boiler
I just looked at the latest comments on the BBC SYB on this, no doubt fuelled by several hours in the Spoons up and down the country.

If the BBC comments are like they are, I ain't going nowhere near the Daily Mail. I really don't need to see that and just feel even worse than I do already - fuck that for a game of soldiers.

I'll watch Maigret on TPTV and see how much I can manage without subtitles instead.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:23 pm
by davidjay
This time yesterday we were hoping he'd hold his own. Absofuckinglutely smashed it. As der Kreuzer said, for the first time in decades we had a speech you can believe in.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 11:48 pm
by Oboogie

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:42 am
by Samanfur
That was quick!

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:04 am
by davidjay
I don't for a second believe it was, but the sleeves rolled-up and get on with it response was just so perfect that the whole thing couldn't have been stage-managed any better.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:15 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Sometimes the gods of photography smile on you...


Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:39 am
by Youngian
davidjay wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:04 am I don't for a second believe it was, but the sleeves rolled-up and get on with it response was just so perfect that the whole thing couldn't have been stage-managed any better.
B+ response. A+ would have been decking him.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:56 am
by Watchman
Youngian wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:39 am
davidjay wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:04 am I don't for a second believe it was, but the sleeves rolled-up and get on with it response was just so perfect that the whole thing couldn't have been stage-managed any better.
B+ response. A+ would have been decking him.
You are John Prescott, and I claim my £5

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:19 am
by Samanfur
A few of us in the hall were mentioning Prescott afterwards.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 11:32 am
by Youngian
Is this the best the Tories can do (as poor an effort as the Independent for printing it)?
Sir Keir Starmer remains Labour’s main weakness because he has still not done enough to dispel the notion that he is “boring”, senior Conservative insiders believe.

While the Labour leader’s party conference speech on Tuesday garnered many positive reviews, aides in No 10 have noted that criticism has spread beyond the usual Tory papers, with the Economist branding Sir Keir “dull”. Sir Keir Starmer remains Labour’s main weakness because he has still not done enough to dispel the notion that he is “boring”, senior Conservative insiders believe.

While the Labour leader’s party conference speech on Tuesday garnered many positive reviews, aides in No 10 have noted that criticism has spread beyond the usual Tory papers, with the Economist branding Sir Keir “dull”. https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/borin ... ts-2680949

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:17 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Sounds like the Tory YTS boy after a few free drinks. At least, I hope for their sake it is.

How's Sunak going to show up this difference? Turn up for PMQs on a trapeze?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:45 pm
by Abernathy
And I suppose Sunak is fucking scintillating, is he ?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 1:57 pm
by Andy McDandy
That is just 3 sentences all saying the same thing.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:05 pm
by mattomac
Basically that should have been: "Starmer branded dull by The Economist, Tories agree"

I suppose it's an improvement for Starmer on the usual "he isn't getting through to people".

I assume they took it from the same word cloud that Savanta posted, missed the "GOOD" as the biggest word on that, of course there was nothing remotely positive on Sunak's.

Basically lets flip it and say "the FT reports that Sunak is "Incompetent", Labour insiders agree."

I won't of course mention what Max Hastings had to say which one commentator pretended to be good news for Sunak, in which Hastings said he seemed a decent chap but completely unsuitable for leadership. Some reason they skipped the latter part.

It's worth a read as it's mostly on the nail, especially the co-operation on immigration, the fact that climate will lead to more migration is hardly mentioned, but it will lead to that.

https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/the-er ... -hastings/

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:07 pm
by Yug
Tubby Isaacs wrote:Sounds like the Tory YTS boy after a few free drinks. At least, I hope for their sake it is.

How's Sunak going to show up this difference? Turn up for PMQs on a trapeze?
Turning up at all would be an improvement.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:36 pm
by Crabcakes
I think senior Tories may be vastly underestimating how much desire there is for boring and sensible as opposed to frightening Android, sleazy groping pisshead, talentless egomaniac and frightening Android 2.0.

It’s like Trump. One of Biden’s most appealing features is you don’t have to wake up in the morning and reach for your phone to see what today’s nightmare is. It was *exhausting*.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:48 pm
by Andy McDandy
I remember when Johnson became PM, and the likes of Littlejohn and Toby Young were lining up to suck his cock and tell us how great he would be, this jester, this raiser of spirits, this adder to the "gaiety of the nation" (in one of Littlejohn's more annoying phrases).

Great if you want a madcap funster in charge of things, which you need to be pretty well insulated from to avoid the consequences of their cock-ups. But even if you were a fan of his, do you really want the clown in charge?

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:34 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
First time I noticed Nick Ferrari was him saying "London has become a bouncier, blonder place" when Bozo was first elected Mayor of London.

Re: Keir Starmer

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha ha ha.

Is Seb still looking for a seat?