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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:40 pm
by Bones McCoy
Yug wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 2:27 pm
Why can't I stop thinking that National Conservatism is only a short step away from National Socialism?
I really don't feel comfortable about the direction these fuckwits are going in.
This is the UK spin off from the American CPAC.
The one that invites gun killers to speak and puts a gold statue of Donald Trump on stage.
The red wall was their T-party.
Dories is their Marjory Taylor Greene.
Goodness knows what they'll try to organise for their January 6th.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:45 pm
by Bones McCoy
davidjay wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:25 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:16 pm
What does Sir John Hayes mean by "faith", eh? It's a mystery.
I can recall it being pointed out to a Tory MP in the mid nineties by Darcus Howe that black people went to church.
Not proper churches, though. They go to those Black churches with loud music and shouting.
This is the problem with their reading the USA playbook verbatim.
Some things (especially related to health, racial segregation and tipping) simply don't translate when they cross the Atlantic.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 3:51 pm
by Spoonman
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:25 pm
Or "Famille, Travail, Patrie", as the Vichy French put it.
Certainly has the feels for it...
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:06 pm
by Youngian
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:16 pm
What does he (edit- not John Hayes) mean by "faith", eh? It's a mystery.
I can recall it being pointed out to a Tory MP in the mid nineties by Darcus Howe that black people went to church.
We may be a broad church but even the most openminded churchgoer does not want atheists as fellow travellers
Romanies are still fairly God fearing and are travellers. Always sure of a warm welcome in John Hayes’s constituency.
Why shouldn’t atheists be Conservatives, did the Enlightenment by-pass South Holland and Deepdale? Probably not as it wouldn’t exist.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Fuck.
Not the only thing I notice about that, but how is the Republic capitalist and communist?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:15 pm
by RedSparrows
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 4:07 pm
Fuck.
Not the only thing I notice about that, but how is the Republic capitalist and communist?
Cos the same rag-tag bundle of genuine idiocy + dripping cynicism that the NatCs are wallowing in has a long history.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Like the way they tagged the last one on there. Famously, the left behind working class in Ashfield object to the NHS budget rising. Go on, run on cutting it. See how that piece of populism goes.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:28 pm
by RedSparrows
WHO HAS LEFT THEM BEHIND IF NOT THE FUCKING TORIES OF THE PAST FUCKING 60 YEARS OH MY FUCKING GOD
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:34 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Murray/ UKIP/ Braverman don't care about Sunak winning, just like these types didn't care about John Major winning in 1997.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 4:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 5:06 pm
by davidjay
You look at these people, then you then look at clowns like Damien from Brighton and him who still owes me fifty quid and see the latter doing their damnedest to ruin Labour's chances of trying to bring back a modicum of decency to the country because in their twisted imaginations the likes of Kieth Starmer hur hur hur and Jess Phillips sabotaged St Jez's dream of a socialist Jerusalem. And you wonder what kind of a country another Tory government would rule over and think what lengths they would go to in ensuring Damien and co wouldn't be allowed anywhere near Twitter. And you realise that they still see the Centrist Melts and liberals as their real enemy and not for the first time you wonder what fucking planet they live on.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 5:22 pm
by Samanfur
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 3:16 pm
Kinder, Küche, Kirche.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:03 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
When are we leaving NATO?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:22 pm
by Oboogie
Nat Cs by name, Nazis by nature.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:36 pm
by Yug
HURRAH FOR THE BLACKSHIRTS
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 6:51 pm
by Watchman
Youngian wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 12:26 pm
Quotes an infamous antisemite (GK Chesterton) on a rant about metropolitan liberals and cultural Marxists. Classy.
My screen is now pebbledashed with spittle…..that’s her’s not mine!
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 7:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I didn't appreciate Danny Kruger's full genius.
I take it he's already told his constituents that their villages should have all this (social?) housing added to them. Fair play, if he has. "Brave", as Sir Humphrey might have said. But not as brave as telling eg Reading tech investors that they need to set up in Grimsby instead. Or perhaps they can stay in Reading provided all the jobs go to people from Reading? Who knows?
But his vision of high wages is refreshing. All those clever university types who've looked at productivity must be thinking "We've been wasting our time! It's so simple now Danny has said! Wives give up work, husband's wage shoots up!"
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 7:06 pm
by satnav
Did she skive off of school for the day to address the conference?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 7:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Hang on, I thought globalisation was bad? The City of London is "one of the UK's great advantages" now. Perhaps the City of London should only employ people from the immediate area or something?
The bit about manufacturing is bizarre too. Firms will set up whether there's an appropriate labour supply but that doesn't mean they're doing it for the sake of local people. Does Danny think they ought to keep unprofitable factories open forever?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 7:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This sounds like Mark Corrigan's Business Secrets of the Pharoahs. Sadly, Danny doesn't have to vanity publish his version though.