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Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:06 pm Per the Guardian BTL, he's dropped that energy plan, funny old game.

Then again they can't tell the difference between tight spending on current spending and "to the right of Thatcher".

Ah the Guardian BTL or as I like to call it a gateway to hades.

Shocking expose here

Whoever does it. this stuff is tedious. Nobody has a time machine to ask Bevan what he thinks.

Dead people are great in that regard, just like gods. They never clarify exactly what they meant, but they're so awesome and deserving of respect that you can't go against them.

I’ve been hearing from the comrades there was no austerity under Atlee and he found loads of magic money to start the NHS and other nice tings. Big soft loan gifts from the US imperialists kept this country afloat and the post war years were still dire. The country was preparing for famine 1947.

From a mini-Mogg elsewhere re: Attlee -

I regard Attlee's government as a dramatic historical wrong turn that is still working against providing the health and social care we need and deserve

The individual concerned is very much in the mindset of "things should be at my convenience, not theirs"

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:44 pm The country was preparing for famine 1947.

The year after, Purchase Tax on electric fires became something like 100% to limit their sales because we simply didn't have the power generating capacity, as proven by that famous winter.

Bad times all round.

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 8:44 pm I’ve been hearing from the comrades there was no austerity under Atlee and he found loads of magic money to start the NHS and other nice tings. Big soft loan gifts from the US imperialists kept this country afloat and the post war years were still dire. The country was preparing for famine 1947.

Oh God, not that. Why do they think David Kynaston's book on that period is called "Austerity Britain"?

How do they explain the reaction to Liz Truss and Kwasi Kwarteng if there's an easy magic money tree out there? Is the plan to for Jez, Richard Murphy, and Alan Woods to outwit the markets?

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:49 pm Dead people are great in that regard, just like gods. They never clarify exactly what they meant, but they're so awesome and deserving of respect that you can't go against them.

I wonder what Nye Bevan would have done

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Jul 23, 2023 10:06 pm Per the Guardian BTL, he's dropped that energy plan, funny old game.

Then again they can't tell the difference between tight spending on current spending and "to the right of Thatcher".

Thankfully I can read so I don’t have to rely on that paper.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:49 pm Dead people are great in that regard, just like gods. They never clarify exactly what they meant, but they're so awesome and deserving of respect that you can't go against them.

Bloody hell, We’ve not lost comrade Jez?

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:49 pm Dead people are great in that regard, just like gods. They never clarify exactly what they meant, but they're so awesome and deserving of respect that you can't go against them.

There ought to be a competition for this stuff.

Here's a good one. John Milton would have supported Brexit, or something.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... it-213984/

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:08 pm

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:49 pm Dead people are great in that regard, just like gods. They never clarify exactly what they meant, but they're so awesome and deserving of respect that you can't go against them.

There ought to be a competition for this stuff.

Here's a good one. John Milton would have supported Brexit, or something.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... it-213984/

Paradise Lost...

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:08 pm

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 24, 2023 7:49 pm Dead people are great in that regard, just like gods. They never clarify exactly what they meant, but they're so awesome and deserving of respect that you can't go against them.

There ought to be a competition for this stuff.

Here's a good one. John Milton would have supported Brexit, or something.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... it-213984/

That was written by an American in a tweed suit who laughs loudly at Keeping up Appearances on PBS.

Fucking hell, that's bad. Our Island Story meets the theme park version of WW2. Funnily enough, he doesn't ask why someone in Hawaii should give a fig for the governance of Nebraska. Also, his apology of sorts for Trump - he says some things with disturbing overtones, but that's OK because he's ignorant - is about as shit as they come.

I appreciate that BTL on the Guardian isn't the most impartial place, but I get the impression that Sir Keir isn't at his best on these radio phone ins. Why does he do them? Nobody from the Government does. Nick Clegg did but seemed like it was for something to do (he didn't have a department). The Leader of the Opposition has plenty to do. Sounds like the callers are a mix of unhappy Labour voters and UKIP. What's in it for Sir Keir?

Today he said that the scrappage with ULEZ needed to be more generous. Lots of people would agree with that. It's barely a story even on the Guardian, and I doubt any other outlet is going out of its way to inform its audience. Same with the u-turn on gender- this is likely to be reasonably popular overall. But same applies, except critical outlets will pick it up and magnify it. As I say, what's in it for him?

Tony Blackburn said the advantage of doing radio is that you have a captive audience, motorists and convicts.
I guess Starmer’s reaching out to non Labour voters which will be most of Ferrari’s listeners.

I suppose so. But it doesn’t sound like you get a cross section of questions from a Ferrari audience.

Stop anonymous briefing of Andy Burnham says the aide of Andy Burnham anonymously briefing against Starmer

Always framed as nasty Keir hates something nice.

Is Sadiq funding the extra kitchens? I recall the reaction to Clegg doing a limited version of this was less than ecstatic in some quarters. That may be why Starmer is less than pleased.