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Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 7:28 pm
by davidjay
With an extremely classy reply from Dan Niedle.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sat May 13, 2023 11:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
It's almost like "conservative" is a an adjective that can be positive (ie we won't smash everything up), as well as the name of a party.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:35 am
by Youngian
Has Humza ever wondered how Alex Salmond captured so many Tory seats? Doubt it was through a radical socialist pitch.
I’m guessing Keir considers obeying the rule of law and respecting the independence of public servants as conservative values. Which are now also radical opposition values.

Re: SNP weakening

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 8:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
What Starmer said.




Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun May 14, 2023 8:20 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
On the other hand, this by Murray is shit. Lorna Slater in busy schedule in area with infrequent public transport shock


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 2:39 pm
by Abernathy
My. Now Wee Nippy's had her collar felt.

https://news.sky.com/story/nicola-sturg ... dWp6WT_h7E

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 3:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Fuck.

I wonder if this SNP MP saw this coming.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 4:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 6:38 pm
by The Weeping Angel

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:57 pm
by davidjay
She's got a friend.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:19 am
by Bones McCoy
The timing may be coincidental, but here's Kate Forbes.

Kate Forbes says people of faith are fearful of politics

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65855240

But buried in the article is the hint that it isn't about faith.
At the heart of Ms Forbes' identity is her membership of the socially conservative Free Church of Scotland, whose evangelical Christian ministers broke away from the Church of Scotland in the 19th Century.

Ms Forbes feels that her own religious views were "100%" scrutinised more than those of Mr Yousaf - who has describes himself as a proud Muslim who fasts during Ramadan.

A few things to consider:
1. The winner of the leadership ballot (see quote above) is a self-professed man of faith (Just the wrong one).
2. Just over the water (We'll see the smoke from the bonfires) is a province where politics has been dominated by people of faith - how's that working out for them?
3. Many voters are extremely nervous of would be leaders who profess a "higher calling" - it often ends badly.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:20 am
by Watchman
Before I “take sides” on Nicola Sturgeon’s position, is this; a) a need to step back and let due process take its course, or b) a witch-hunt undertaken by a kangaroo court.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:38 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Bones McCoy wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:19 am

But buried in the article is the hint that it isn't about faith.
At the heart of Ms Forbes' identity is her membership of the socially conservative Free Church of Scotland, whose evangelical Christian ministers broke away from the Church of Scotland in the 19th Century.

Ms Forbes feels that her own religious views were "100%" scrutinised more than those of Mr Yousaf - who has describes himself as a proud Muslim who fasts during Ramadan.
That's awful by Forbes. She genuinely may not get why, I don't know.

Yousaf, like all the other Muslim MPs and MSPs I'm aware of, didn't say he had a problem with same sex marriage because of his religion. One of the first things he did was renew efforts to increase trans rights. But yeah, fasts during Ramadan.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:46 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
davidjay wrote: Sun Jun 11, 2023 11:57 pm She's got a friend.

Yeah but the real issues.

Who does Dr Eoin have in mind? I've found one Parliamentarian implicated in the two combined. No evidence he committed "fraud" as far as I know. He didn't declare the interest, and ought to have been in extremely deep shit, but is that a criminal offence?

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2023 10:42 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Completely normal response here


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:08 am
by mattomac
I think if our leaders cannot be held accountable then it is a shoddy democracy.

Actually witch hunts you’ll note are often taken against those who have no power, in the case of Johnson, Trump and to a certain extent Sturgeon they all have had at times a lot of power.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:08 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Tory Fibs has deleted that post. This may be why.

If this is the reason, I think he deserves some credit, not something I expected myself to say.


Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 10:14 pm
by Samanfur
As we were taught on my NCTJ course, though, common law contempt is a different kettle of fish:

Common law contempt consists of any other action which is intended to interfere with the administration of justice, for example a sustained campaign by the media to influence legal proceedings. Proceedings need not be active.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 12:03 am
by The Weeping Angel
Top arguement from The National



Yeah let's not bother investigating it on the grounds of cost.

Re: SNP weakening?

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:54 pm
by Youngian
The Nation should welcome that the Scottish government and police don’t have a cosy relationship it shows institutional strength. Does the chief constable who instigated this investigation fancy a job in the Met?