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Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:25 am
by Yug
Watchman wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:07 am She probably was briefed, but like the current batch of Tories; knows better, too thick to understand what she was being briefed
And too much a Legendary Genius and Very Important Person to bother listening to underlings and other little people.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:50 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
I can just imagine the frustration of her officials, preparing the likely questions and the prepared lines to answer them and then she just doesn't listen, doesn't understand or simply ignores them.

You could see those questions coming a mile off...

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:22 am
by Andy McDandy
Or she's used to the media rounds, where the circular answer is OK, because all you need to do is run the clock down. No wonder they don't like extended scrutiny.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:26 am
by Crabcakes
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 8:41 pm I can't believe she wasn't briefed to answer that question.
Maybe she was, and that was literally the best response anyone could come up with outside of an admission there are zero safe, legal routes for the vast majority of asylum seekers.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 1:05 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:22 am Or she's used to the media rounds, where the circular answer is OK, because all you need to do is run the clock down. No wonder they don't like extended scrutiny.
I think that's it.

Limit now is 8 minutes..

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:25 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Andy McDandy wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:22 am Or she's used to the media rounds, where the circular answer is OK, because all you need to do is run the clock down. No wonder they don't like extended scrutiny.
As I always say, try doing that for an hour with Brian Walden.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:42 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Sunak has apparently now limited all interviews with ministers to 8 minutes.

How the actual fuck does he get away with that? What happened to a free press?

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 7:44 pm
by Andy McDandy
It's an interesting definition of free.

Free from scrutiny, mainly.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:25 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Free from so many things..

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:44 pm
by Bones McCoy
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:42 pm Sunak has apparently now limited all interviews with ministers to 8 minutes.

How the actual fuck does he get away with that? What happened to a free press?
You spelled "client press" wrong.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 8:46 pm
by Oboogie
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 5:42 pm Sunak has apparently now limited all interviews with ministers to 8 minutes.

How the actual fuck does he get away with that? What happened to a free press?
He gets away with it because there are enough people in this country who been taught to hate the media more than they hate Tory ministers.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:30 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Then they must hate the media and slavishly trust it at the same time.

I shall call them Schrodinger's Fuckwits.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 10:46 pm
by Oboogie
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 9:30 pm Then they must hate the media and slavishly trust it at the same time.

I shall call them Schrodinger's Fuckwits.
No, they absolutely don't trust the media, that's the point, they dismiss media stories they don't like as biased.
As for time limits on interviews, my understanding is that Sunak has now banned ministers from going on the Today programme altogether, that's the boycott of the BBC almost complete - I don't remember the last time I saw a minister appear on Newsnight.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:14 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
That's what I'm getting at. I suppose it's a branch of confirmation bias.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:31 pm
by Samanfur
I'm reminded of the time that a fellow canvasser was bawled out for ten minutes because it didn't matter that the hospital involved had confirmed that the photo of a four year old having to sleep on coats on the floor was genuine. Facebook said that it was fake, therefore we were all liars.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:03 pm
by davidjay
These people truly believe that the 'MSM' of the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph, Talk Radio, GB News et al are left-wing. That's all you need to know.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:56 pm
by Oboogie
davidjay wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:03 pm These people truly believe that the 'MSM' of the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph, Talk Radio, GB News et al are left-wing. That's all you need to know.
Do they believe it though? Or is the claim of political bias simply their go to when they see a story reported in a way which doesn't fit their confirmation bias?

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:40 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I don't think they have the faintest idea of what left or right-wing ideas might be. Dunning Kruger, much?

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:42 pm
by Bones McCoy
If Sunak's decided to avoid the scrutiny of broadcast analysis shows, the BBC and others ought to grow a set.

There's nothing to stop them inviting the shadow briefs to say their bit.
Then announce that we invited the cabinet minister, but they declined to appear.

Re: Suella Braverman

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:24 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Yes. That would be the right thing to do, but...