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New leader every month like UKIP? And then implode.

These Poots were made for walkin'

Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Jun 17, 2021 9:40 pm New leader every month like UKIP? And then implode.

UKIP is trending on Twitter, purely on the strength of this.

Clough lasted longer at Leeds.

Not quite as bad as "pint of milk" Scaramucci, but not far off.

Is Poots the shortest serving leader of any UK political party? I've not heard any media mention it so I'm guessing he's not but I can't find a shorter lived one.

Diane James of UKIP was leader-elect for 18 days, but quit before lasting long enough to formalise her leadership.

I'm not sure if that counts.

Not even 600 hours, let along 6000 years

"Should be forced to take his leadership to full term" gags are appearing.

Kate Hoey just gets weirder.

Hey Kate, there’s a vacancy over there, if you’re interested

Watchman wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:58 pm Hey Kate, there’s a vacancy over there, if you’re interested

Not if Sam Allardyce gets there first.*



* Soccer/football related joke, in case you're confused.

Brexit: NI Protocol is lawful, High Court rules

The Northern Ireland Protocol is lawful, a High Court judge in Belfast has ruled.

A group of unionist politicians, including Arlene Foster and Lord Trimble, had challenged the protocol in judicial review proceedings.

They claimed it was unlawful because it conflicts with the 1998 Good Friday Agreement and the Acts of Union.

But Mr Justice Colton rejected their challenge on all grounds on Wednesday afternoon.

Mr Colton found that the Withdrawal Agreement Act, which includes the protocol, does conflict with the 1800 Acts of Union in respect of free trade between Britain and Northern Ireland.

However, he added that the relevant parts of the Acts of Union are "impliedly repealed" by the Withdrawal Agreement Act.

That means that the more recent legislation automatically overrides the older laws.

He said the Acts of Union could not be used to override the "clear specific will of Parliament".

Normally, a constitutional law, like the Acts of Union, can only be expressly repealed, but they can be impliedly by another constitutional law.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-57666255

So to summarise...

"We want to withdraw from the EU so we can once again have a British Parliament making British laws for British people!"
"Okay then..."
"NO! Not like that!"

New laws trump old laws was pretty much day one of English law 101 at university.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 30, 2021 4:00 pm New laws trump old laws was pretty much day one of English law 101 at university.

Constitutional specialists Habib and Hoey knew better. They will leave court still convinced they’re right and invent a conspiracy about liberal elite judges to explain the verdict. Trimble is the Andrew Neil of Unionist politics. Garnered some respect late in his career only to piss it all away on Brexit.

The thing is that even if Justice Colton deemed that the NI Protocol was unlawful against the Act of Union 1800, all that the government in Westminster would be required to do would be to draft up legislation to be brought to Parliament to ensure either that the NIP was compatible with the 1800 AoU, or just repeal/amend the relative bits of the Act of Union that are in conflict, as it had been done several times in the 20th century - unless we're starting to see the rise of a loony fringe that hold the 1800 Act of Union the same way Freeman loons hold the Magna Carta (and somehow deeming that the Republic of Ireland is still part of the UK).

Hoey was on Politics Live earlier, ranting about an appeal before the ink was probably dry on the judgement.

I wonder if Kate Hoey has ever actually visited the Republic of Ireland. If she did spend time in the Republic she would see thousands of signs up and down the next to new motorways and industrial sites highlighting that the projects were funded by the EU.

She'd have to understand what she was seeing.

Feckin' PE teacher.