- Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:44 pm
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That's about half an NHS - was the UK about to get a sweetheart deal on Venezuelan oil to go with the free broadband?
satnav wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2024 5:33 pm I was watching GMB this morning where Ricard Madeley was interviewing a spokeswoman for the WASPI campaign after spending some time slagging of Starmer she was asked where the government could find the money from to pay the compensation. She then started her list with cutting Foreign aid, cutting the money for Ukraine and finished off wanting to cut the money being spent on asylum seekers. If anybody was in any doubt that she was a nasty old bigot she then brought Harry and Meghan into the conversation by saying that the Starmer must be using the same PR firm as Meghan and Harry because like them he always gets everything wrong.It's all very People's Fuel Lobby. "We want nice things." "Who's paying?" "Err."
Giles Wilkes
@gilesyb.bsky.social
Does anyone whatsoever come out of this WASPI thing with any credit? I have always flipped past posts about it; now that I pay attention it feels like a festival of bad faith lobbying, bad faith promises and rubbish arguments
December 19, 2024
Of course there should be no compensation for the Waspi pensioners as the raising of the pension retirement age has been in the public domain for many years. The logic of their argument is that anyone affected by a change in social security or tax should receive an individual notification of how the change will affect them.There are also bad ones, like somebody claiming to have lost £50,000 and someone else saying that they worked the extra years, so should get money paid back to them., And somebody else claiming to be on the precipice but saying she wants to move to New Zealand, which isn't known for its low cost of living, particularly in Auckland where a very high proportion of the population live.
John Martin Berry
Ormskirk, Lancanshire
Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:44 pm I now find myself broadly in agreement with Mr. Berry, there, and I suspect that Starmer probably is too.Starmer and co are sure being selective about how they deal with their wilderness hangovers. I have seen it reported today that he reckons that SM / CU membership was on that beastly ballot paper.
The mistake that Keir and many others now in government made was in aligning themselves in opposition with the Corbyn/McDonnell axis’s “right-on” posturing about the WASPI issue. It has, almost literally, come back to bite them on the bum.
Abernathy wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 7:44 pm I now find myself broadly in agreement with Mr. Berry, there, and I suspect that Starmer probably is too.You can't really blame Jez. Labour people were having their photos taken with campaigners after that. To be fair, that position had been dropped by the time of the election, but that was classic opposition takes cheap shot. No party in Government is going to shell out for this.
The mistake that Keir and many others now in government made was in aligning themselves in opposition with the Corbyn/McDonnell axis’s “right-on” posturing about the WASPI issue. It has, almost literally, come back to bite them on the bum.
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun Dec 22, 2024 8:16 pm It wasn't, but I think FoM was by far the biggest factor in Leave winning, and they'd get killed on it now if it came back.This is true. At the 2019 GE, Johnson’s massive lie of an election slogan, “Get Brexit Done”, appealed in its apparent simplicity to an electorate composed to a very uncomfortable degree of gullible simpletons who were seemingly fed up with all the wrangling since the 2016 referendum result and just wanted it all to be over. Particularly as Labour’s position on the issue at the time was as incomprehensible as a John Prescott conference speech on the morning after an all-night session on the falling-down water.
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