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Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:01 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Oh fuck me, it's the 'local MPs for local people' argument again - narrow minded tossbags.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:37 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This stuff could very easily snowball, especially in a high-pressure by-election. Local door knockers are important when there's a low turnout- where do the wider members stand on what the committee have done?

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:45 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
More to the point - what were the weaknesses and faults of the rejected candidates?

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Fri May 13, 2022 9:53 pm
by Andy McDandy
Luciana Berger was parachuted into Liverpool Wavertree, but wasn't a bad MP, got things done. Local Paula Barker has been pretty much anonymous.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 3:11 am
by The Weeping Angel
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:45 pm More to the point - what were the weaknesses and faults of the rejected candidates?
Well here's one of the rejected candidates.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... 72bff599e3
In one deleted post from July 2018, Hemingway said adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism would be a “disastrous move”.

In another post, Hemingway called for Corbyn to be reinstated as a party member after he was suspended over his response to the Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) report into anti-Semitism in the Labour Party.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:40 am
by Tubby Isaacs
That shouldn't be disqualifying, but it's the sort of thing that gets away from you in a by-election.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 11:42 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat May 14, 2022 11:40 am That shouldn't be disqualifying,
Yes it should.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sat May 14, 2022 5:21 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Why? See there are alternative definitions like the Jerusalem Declaration, which is supported by people who aren't just trying to get Chris Williamson off.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 5:11 pm
by Youngian
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Fri May 13, 2022 9:01 pm Oh fuck me, it's the 'local MPs for local people' argument again - narrow minded tossbags.
Local politics isn’t short of people embittered by not having their genius recognised. What sort of hissy hacks resign ahead of a nationally crucial by-election? Good riddance.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 5:41 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Big bust up at the selection vote too. Simon Lightwood has been chosen, who used to work for Mary Creagh, MP for Wakefield till 2019.

Don't know anything about him, but after the way the Jez wing dicked about over the minimum wage at the conference, I don't want too many more of them as MPs.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:27 pm
by Youngian
Photo-op for the local rag from the Wakefield dissidents: ‘Starmer spurned our candidate choices, claim scruffy lefties.’

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 8:29 pm
by Andy McDandy
Bet they're fun at parties.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 10:09 pm
by mattomac
Apparently the candidate did live in the area for 20 years, I assume he knows it very well.

The way it’s being talked about you’d think he had never stepped foot in Yorkshire.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:10 am
by Abernathy
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Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:06 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I noticed that Labour's tactic of running lots of 2010 losers in 2015 in the same seats didn't go very well. Perhaps came across as arrogant, as if reclaiming rightful place or something.

Could running the defeated MP's assistant be seen like that? If anyone notices, maybe it could. Depends if Mr Lexiter runs as independent and makes an issue of it, I suppose.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 6:17 pm
by mattomac
Could do, Mary Creagh was generally well liked though, probably more a victim of circumstances.

I was a bit sad that she didn’t run again.

Evidently it seems like they’ve given up on one running both on the same day, I assume that message about the pact is probably what they want to go after. Another sex offender in the Tory party happening in the background won’t help mind.

Tractor porn bloke may run as independent so that’s probably that seat gone to the Liberals if he does.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 7:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Tories have selected an ex headteacher to run in Tiverton and Honiton.

I get the feeling she'll be fielding more questions about Bozo than education.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 10:20 pm
by mattomac
Meanwhile in Wakefield they got two village names wrong on their leaflet and it focuses on police… I’d probably not have gone down that route myself

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 7:36 pm
by Arrowhead
If I'm reading this correctly (I'm not remotely a betting man, so it's perfectly possible I am misreading the numbers), but it looks as if Labour are currently on a 93% chance of winning the Wakefield by-election on June 23rd :o

https://smarkets.com/event/42686871/pol ... y-election

The same site seems to suggest a 78% chance of a Lib Dem victory in the Tiverton & Honiton by-election on the same date.

Re: Wakefield and Tiverton/Honiton by-elections

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:57 pm
by davidjay
Lib Dems are at best 1/4 for Tiverton with Labour 1/14 in Wakefield. That could make life interesting for any Prime Ministers who might be interested.