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An inspiring bit of history, albeit not to the many racists in Andy’s replies.

'When is White history month'?

The other fucking eleven...

Dare I say it’s also this one as well…

Said it before, I'll say it again. I did history to A level and never a single lesson that wasn't about white Europeans.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:30 pm Said it before, I'll say it again. I did history to A level and never a single lesson that wasn't about white Europeans.

Plenty of choices the same at uni level, too. Of course there there are also modules on many non white peoples and histories, but that's communism etc etc.

davidjay wrote: ↑Sun Oct 06, 2024 1:30 pm Said it before, I'll say it again. I did history to A level and never a single lesson that wasn't about white Europeans.

Reminds me of an exam when we were 13-14 where we are asked to write about Saladin- ie stick down some facts. The teacher pointed out that we'd all written about Richard the Lionheart.

Some kids at my school had a Wild West module, covering the colonisation of America, busting movie myths and so on. As I recall, it wasn't very popular because a) 90s kids didn't give a shit about cowboys, b) we'd all seen or heard about Dances with Wolves, and c) it was a rather foregone conclusion.

Just a quick question : Have we scrapped the bedroom tax yet ?

Never heard of this chap before, apparently Labour. My advice to Starmer is not to listen to what he says.

To dismiss this as the politics of grievance is to dismiss what it feels like to be disrespected, to feel “a stranger in your own land”. To feel as though the college-educated are looking down at the non-college-educated.

I'll dismiss it, because this rubbish has been around forever. Tucker Carlson, Elon Musk, Trump, all the rest of them are college-educated.

The economy is not being run in their interests, government is not working for them, and mainstream political parties have not been up to the job in recent years.

This is what appealed to so many people including lifelong Democrats such as Bill, who was the first person I chatted to at a rally in Latrobe, just outside Pittsburgh. “I was a Democrat all my life, a local organiser. I was invited to a fundraiser, bought a new suit to look smart, turned up and listened to all the speeches. By the end of the evening, there had been a programme aimed at everyone – those on benefits, single mothers, new immigrants – but nothing of any kind at me, a dad of two children, trying to pay the mortgage, working hard to get on. I realised the Democrats were no longer for me.”

If that's even a truthful account of the fundraiser, that's not a guy complaining about the rigged economy, That's a reactionary saying "Democrats only care about scroungers and immigrants".

what motivated so many of them was a lack of order and control in their lives. If you don’t know who is coming across the border, you feel uneasy and at risk

Trump's approach was to let out criminals from ICE detention and detain asylum seekers. And lots of the people employing the undocumented are Republicans. A border package was agreed with Senate Republicans and then Trump told them to stop it. So the reality can't have been that terrifying.

I bet these people think crime is through the roof too, when it's actually falling.

The outlines of what needs to happen will emerge. A project that is squarely back on the side of working people. Where we do the “heavy lifting” to get better and bolder policies on the cost of living, making work pay, securing our borders, providing for the aspirations of those who don’t go to university.

There's been a jobs boom and real terms pay increases, and Biden concentrated on blue collar (and male) jobs via infrastructure and the Inflation Reduction Act.

He also seems to have picked up on only the bits he wants to pick up (and reinterpret). Just had some Trumper on my Facebook post about critical race theory. trans sports and all that. Do we listen to that? If the issue was the economy, an inordinate amount of money was wasted by Republicans attacking the "culture" stuff. Of course, I'm going to stroke my chin and say "it was the economy" not "I'm just a shithead" if someone asks me.

2016- liberals and lefties don't understand politics is no longer about the economy but other legitimate concerns.
2025- liberals and lefties don't understand its about the economy.
Not 'legitimate concerns' about Kamala Harris then?

There has been an air of the dodgy about Judah for some time - as there was about Johann Hari before it all caught up to him. Although given that this would appear to be a case of someone allowing his id and ego to lead him way out beyond the truth while presenting his work as strictly factual - and getting plaudits and fame in the process - James Frey might be the better point of reference.

I don't believe a City can be libelled.

Also: "Londonistan" - the Mail's preferred funny nickname.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2024 8:31 pm I don't believe a City can be libelled.

Also: "Londonistan" - the Mail's preferred funny nickname.

Not even a foetid shithole?

A Christmas message from Liam Byrne MP :

From my family to yours, a very, very happy Christmas!

This Christmas, let’s cherish the community spirit that unites us. In a world where conflict looms large, I find myself more thankful than ever for the sweet moderation that is the heart of our nation, the spirit of toleration, our old traditions of live and let live and that spirit of the Good Samaritan which tells us that ‘my neighbour is anyone in need’. Despite our challenges, ours is the best country in the world. A place where we keep calm and carry on, and look out for each other. Let us hold on to that.

So, this Christmas, I hope you get a chance to take a break, be with the ones you love and take a moment to give thanks for the kindness and decency of the people around us. Let’s take pride in those bonds of friendship and community. Let’s take joy in the goodness of those around us.

Liam, Sarah, Alex, John and Kyla.

Admirable sentiments, with which I broadly agree. If only there weren't so many CUNTS.

1. What if you can't stand your neighbours?

2. No it isn't. It's somewhere in Scandinavia with a lovely blend of social liberalism, excellent public services, open and accountable government, and seriously hawt people.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 20, 2024 2:10 pm 1. What if you can't stand your neighbours?

2. No it isn't. It's somewhere in Scandinavia with a lovely blend of social liberalism, excellent public services, open and accountable government, and seriously hawt people.

Can’t argue with that. Liam’s “best country in the world” is aspirational (which isn’t a bad thing), but not currently in the British Isles.

Oh. My. Lord. The independent auditor’s report into the catastrophic implementation of a new Oracle ERP system at Birmngham City Council was published today and fuck me, it makes bloody grim reading. The executive summary alone is one of the longest I’ve ever seen, and if you’ve worked in IT and have experience of planning large project implementations (as do I), you will be holding your head in your hands as you read about what an appalling clusterfuck this was, at the most basic of levels. Birmingham City Council issued a Section 114 notice last year, effectively declaring itself bankrupt, and this was a huge factor in that (a mishandled equal pay settlement was also a key factor). The Council is now elected on a 4 year “all up” cycle, and new city-wide elections will be taking place this May. The Tories will be bashing seven colours of shit out of us on this, the Palestinian fuckwit tendency will be standing again in some seats and taking votes, and it’s certainly conceivable that Labour could lose control of the council - and frankly on the basis of this report would deserve to. Awful, absolutely awful.

https://www.ukauthority.com/articles/a ... programme/
Auditor’s report highlights failings in Birmingham City Council ERP programme.

https://www.birmingham.gov.uk/download ... tion_2025

We'll end up with a Reform/WP coalition.

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