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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:44 pm
by Abernathy
The Weeping Angel wrote: Mon Jul 22, 2024 10:53 pm But it was an assasination attempt. I mean I hate to go all Godwin but people tried to assasinate Hitler and they're still counted as assasination attempts and it's not like Anwar Sadat or Indira Ghandhi were angels either.
You miss my point. I’m not denying that someone did actually mount an attempt to murder Trump. I’m talking about how the term “assassination” seems somehow to be inappropriate and/or undeserved in Trump’s case. Understand ?

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 11:52 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Well weather you like it or not Trump is a public figure he is a former President and he's the Republicans nominee so yeah what happened was an assasination attempt. If it's any consolation it will most likely be remembered the same way that the attempt on Gerald Ford's life is remembered.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 12:10 am
by Abernathy
***sigh** *

I repeat, I am not denying that what we saw last week was an assassination attempt. I am talking about the inappropriateness of the word for what happened to Trump, as I perceive it.

Please try to grasp this. I'm growing rather tired of trying to explain it to you in a way you might comprehend.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:26 am
by The Weeping Angel
Sigh

So it's your're not denying it was an assasination attempt just that it's inappropiate because reasons. Look plenty of bad people have been assasinated or such attempts have been made in fact saturday was the eightieth anniversary of such an attempt.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:08 am
by Andy McDandy
What's not known is the shooter's motivation. Assassination traditionally implied a calculated or political motive, something beyond rage, or a desire to be infamous. However, under that logic, Hinckley/Reagan wouldn't count, as "to impress a girl" isn't exactly political.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:47 am
by Youngian
There’s a surprising lack of public curiosity as to what motivated the shooter (whose name I’ve forgotten already without checking). Could be a good thing that people would rather wait until the facts emerge. More likely that the circus packed up and moved on even before Biden’s presidential race withdrawal. A relief that Trump has failed to capitalise on the event.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:49 am
by Watchman
Was John Lennon murdered or assassinated

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:04 am
by Youngian
Watchman wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:49 am Was John Lennon murdered or assassinated
School will still be open on Biggie and Tupac’s birthdays

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:52 am
by Abernathy
Andy McDandy wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 6:08 am What's not known is the shooter's motivation. Assassination traditionally implied a calculated or political motive, something beyond rage, or a desire to be infamous. However, under that logic, Hinckley/Reagan wouldn't count, as "to impress a girl" isn't exactly political.
Spot on. Could you possibly have a word with TWA ?

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 9:38 am
by Andy McDandy
Sadly they went bust in 2001 and were bought out by American Airlines.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:13 pm
by Youngian
Can’t see this revolting piece of shit attracting anyone who isn’t already a Trump voter.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:56 pm
by Watchman
But mention the green agenda as being a part of our legacy for the next generation..............and watch the likes of Vance go batshit

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:14 pm
by Crabcakes
I’d argue it wasn’t an assassination attempt on Trump because the guy wasn’t fixated on specifically killing Trump - the evidence has shown he had details on Biden’s movements and others, and seems like he just wanted to become shooter famous and Trump just happened to be easily accessible first.

Attempted murder, sure. But Trump wasn’t *the* target - just *a* target. The dictionary definition of assassinating is “murder (an important person) for political or religious reasons.” - but if he didn’t care if he killed the Republican or the Democrat candidate because personal infamy was the goal, it’s very arguably not political. And it’s certainly not religious.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 5:45 pm
by Bones McCoy
Just back.

I'm relieved that Biden's thrown in the towel.
I few Harris' demographic will deter a number of cautious Democrat voters.

But <Full Keegan> I WILL FUCKING LOVE IT IF SHE WINS </Full Keegan>

It will be a joy to watch Trumps stupid orange dribbling face contort with rage at losing to a black woman.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:01 pm
by Crabcakes
For someone who apparently can’t win elections, it looks like Biden just won the election. Harris is beating Trump in the first post-switch poll:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris ... 024-07-23/

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:08 pm
by Abernathy
If/when Kamala Harris defeats Trump, we can no doubt look forward to the orange one refusing to accept the result and claiming the election was rigged against him.

Civil war? Maybe Donald will want one. Man’s a cunt.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:25 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Cool. Let's see the Proud Boys up against the Screaming Eagles...


Frankly I think this can only end in blood. The idiots have pushed it too far.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:32 pm
by Youngian
Just maybe the Iwo Jima style photo at Trump’s shooting hasn’t made such a big impact as a conference full of dickheads glueing sanitary pads to their ears.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:47 pm
by Youngian
GOP donors have thrown money in RFK’s direction but it’s unsurprising this crackpot will shave Trump’s vote rather than Harris.
When voters in the survey were shown a hypothetical ballot that included independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Harris led Trump 42% to 38%, an advantage outside the margin of error. Kennedy, favored by 8% of voters in the poll, has yet to qualify for the ballot in many states ahead of the Nov. 5 election.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:21 pm
by Bones McCoy
Youngian wrote: Tue Jul 23, 2024 1:13 pm Can’t see this revolting piece of shit attracting anyone who isn’t already a Trump voter.
I, for one, am completely up for the "childless cat ladies".

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But if absolutely forced to a decision it'd be a Newmar / Pfeiffer final.