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Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:20 am
by Boiler
Amongst many of the BBC SYB community it seems that any suggestion of not re-opening on 21/6 is absolute heresy.

Driving home from work on the Bank Holiday Monday just passed, I did notice the car park at the swingers' club on the A1 at Tempsford was full so I suppose they've re-opened... :roll:

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:22 am
by Nigredo
The All New KevS wrote: Thu Jun 03, 2021 7:08 pm I think it's nailed on for things to be released on June 21, no matter what the figures say. He's again backed himself into a corner, but I fear there would be an increasing proportion of the public who won't follow it this time.

The Euros will be in full swing by that point, so the pubs will be heaving if all restrictions are lifted. The 21st is also only a week before Wimbledon and about three weeks before Silverstone hosts the F1 - all potential super spreader events.

Mid August lockdown here we come. :cry:
Seems that there's a super spreader event for most of the week:

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... data-shows

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:42 am
by Cyclist
Three of Liverpool's finest weapons-grade morons.


Three people who harassed a head teacher about Covid testing at his school have been fined more than £2,000 each for breaking lockdown rules.

Andrea Rimmer, 39, Lisa Holt, 43, and Wesley Garner, 42, confronted staff at Calderstones School, Liverpool, where pupils were tested, on 9 November.

They filmed themselves in a car shouting through a megaphone that the virus was "a lie" and "a fraud".

One parent said she was "fuming", calling them "absolute idiots".

'Unbelievable'
The trio and a fourth person, who is yet to be identified, had turned up at the school on Harthill Road in Allerton after armed forces personnel arrived to help with coronavirus testing, which was voluntary and only carried out with the consent of pupils' parents.

It was part of a mass testing pilot being held across the city in November.

The group also harassed military personnel and surrounded the school's head teacher, with one of them saying: "If you are the head teacher, we will put you on notice, if anything happens to these children getting tested for Covid-19 - absolute disgrace, this will be going further."

One parent, Jo Fairclough, tweeted: "Fuming. This is my daughter's school and this head teacher is one of the best head teachers I've met.

"He does everything with the best interests of the students at heart and has handled the whole Covid situation excellently.

"What a bunch of absolute idiots, unbelievable."...



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-57343193


It may be wrong of me, but I derive some pleasure from the thought that morons like these are unlikely to get themselves vaccinated, and equally unlikely to obey any lockdown/distancing rules, so will suffer the most during the next wave. My sympathy will be reserved for the NHS staff who will have to care for them.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:52 pm
by Boiler
Cyclist wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:42 am My sympathy will be reserved for the NHS staff who will have to care for them.
Or for those who genuinely cannot be vaccinated and get infected by them.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:19 pm
by Bones McCoy
Cyclist wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:42 am Three of Liverpool's finest weapons-grade morons.


Three people who harassed a head teacher about Covid testing at his school have been fined more than £2,000 each for breaking lockdown rules.

Andrea Rimmer, 39, Lisa Holt, 43, and Wesley Garner, 42, confronted staff at Calderstones School, Liverpool, where pupils were tested, on 9 November.

They filmed themselves in a car shouting through a megaphone that the virus was "a lie" and "a fraud".

One parent said she was "fuming", calling them "absolute idiots".

'Unbelievable'
The trio and a fourth person, who is yet to be identified, had turned up at the school on Harthill Road in Allerton after armed forces personnel arrived to help with coronavirus testing, which was voluntary and only carried out with the consent of pupils' parents.

It was part of a mass testing pilot being held across the city in November.

The group also harassed military personnel and surrounded the school's head teacher, with one of them saying: "If you are the head teacher, we will put you on notice, if anything happens to these children getting tested for Covid-19 - absolute disgrace, this will be going further."

One parent, Jo Fairclough, tweeted: "Fuming. This is my daughter's school and this head teacher is one of the best head teachers I've met.

"He does everything with the best interests of the students at heart and has handled the whole Covid situation excellently.

"What a bunch of absolute idiots, unbelievable."...



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-m ... e-57343193


It may be wrong of me, but I derive some pleasure from the thought that morons like these are unlikely to get themselves vaccinated, and equally unlikely to obey any lockdown/distancing rules, so will suffer the most during the next wave. My sympathy will be reserved for the NHS staff who will have to care for them.
Am I going to hell when I think that these seem to intersect with "Alfie's Army" or whatever they called themselves a while back.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:24 pm
by Andy McDandy
Sadly, Liverpool's not short of them. Speaking as a mother types.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:39 pm
by Samanfur
From the experience of the ones I've dealt with, you spelt 'muvver' wrong.

As you can probably guess from the local infection rate here, I run into them with monotonous regularity.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 2:42 pm
by Boiler
This doesn't seem like good news.

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/pfizer-vacci ... udy-finds/

According to the research, in people who had received two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, levels of neutralising antibodies were more than five times lower against the Indian variant when compared to the original strain, upon which current vaccines are based.
Para. 19:
Eleanor Riley, professor of immunology and infectious disease, University of Edinburgh, said: "These data cannot tell us whether the vaccine will be any less effective at preventing severe disease, hospitalisation and death; we need to wait for the actual data on these outcomes."

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:01 pm
by Nigredo
Sod's law being that it's the vaccine most of the healthcare workers will have had, and Delta being the variant that will be wafting through their hospitals.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:10 pm
by Boiler
Struggling for sympathy here.

"If we can't get that, we can't fly," he says. "And then we are going to be stuck here, and then have to face ten days' quarantine. I have meetings on Friday, I can't afford ten days' quarantine, it is a joke."
I believe we have this thing called "Zoom".

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:15 pm
by Samanfur
I'm glad it's not just me who thought that. He was running his mouth off on News 24 earlier.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 4:19 pm
by Cyclist
A good example of how the next wave will be spread, that. People who *can't* do quarantine for whatever spurious reason.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:34 pm
by Bones McCoy
A haymaker form the invisible hand.
A concert venue in Florida is charging $15 entrance fee for vaccinated attendees and $100 for non-vaccinated. It's something other organizations are looking at doing.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:39 pm
by Boiler
Bones McCoy wrote: Fri Jun 04, 2021 5:34 pm A haymaker form the invisible hand.
A concert venue in Florida is charging $15 entrance fee for vaccinated attendees and $100 for non-vaccinated. It's something other organizations are looking at doing.
Other side of the coin: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ca ... s-n1268982
Fiddleheads Cafe in Mendocino on Sunday put up a sign announcing the fee for customers who wear masks while ordering. In March, the cafe announced an ongoing 50 percent discount for those who throw their face coverings in the trash, said owner Chris Castleman, 34.

"It's about time that the proponents of these ineffective government measures start paying for the collateral damage they have collectively caused," the owner said.

The restaurant also planned to charge an additional $5 fee to those "caught bragging" about being vaccinated, according to a couple of the posted signs.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:47 pm
by Cyclist
Er, about reopening on the 21st...


The number of people infected with coronavirus in the UK has risen by as much as two-thirds, the Office for National Statistics (ONS) says.

It estimates that around 100,000 people tested positive in the week to 29 May, or one in 660 people - up from 60,000 the previous week.

A growing proportion looked like they were the Delta variant, first detected in India, the ONS said.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57362508

Will Johnson push on with it?

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 9:18 pm
by kreuzberger
"Data not Dates" will win the day only if those data are private polling numbers. Remember, the alt-right are always in campaign mode.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:02 pm
by Boiler
Heh. I've just been flamed on a motoring forum for suggesting that Rothermere et al won't let Johnson change the date from 21/6...

A petrolhead arsehole wrote:Have they insisted on the travel restrictions to maximise domestic newspaper sales and increase take up of Sun £9.50 holidays?

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:11 pm
by Andy McDandy
For some reason I don't think Joe Maplin is on the Tory party's elite donor list.

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 8:51 am
by AOB
The S*n reports that the prime minister has been urged to go ahead with the planned easing of restrictions "for the sake of our boozers and footie aces". Ahead of the European Championships, George Cohen - who was part of England's World Cup-winning side in 1966 - tells the paper: "Our boys need those fans in pubs and stadiums."
"I've had my two jabs. I'm alright Jack!", George Cohen there.

I despise that rag. "Boozers", " footie aces", "our boys".

Vomit in word form.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-57366709

Re: Corona / Covid-19

Posted: Sat Jun 05, 2021 9:12 am
by mattomac
Firstly people are allowed in pubs, secondary why would that matter to "our boys", maybe not booing them when taking the knee would be a better way of showing support.