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Craig Whittaker probably has a small personal vote, so could make the difference between holding and losing the seat. Not very useful to the Government.

Only 29 rebels in the end. Fair play to Sunak - he’s beaten down the ERG, and kicked off what will hopefully be an increasingly shitty day for former PMs.

Plus abstentions.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:43 pm Only 29 rebels in the end.

Six of that will be DUP MPs, so 23 max plus abstentions.

Edit: According to the Beeb, there were 22 Tory rebels, and it includes certain names you'd expect...

Adam Afriyie
Sir Jake Berry
Peter Bone
Sir William Cash
Sir Christopher Chope
Simon Clarke
Richard Drax
Sir James Duddridge
Sir Iain Duncan Smith
Mark Francois
Jonathan Gullis
Adam Holloway
Andrea Jenkyns
B***s Johnson
David Jones
Danny Kruger
Craig Mackinlay
Dr Matthew Offord
Priti Patel
John Redwood
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Liz Truss

48 abstentions, apparently, so Sunak needed Labour votes to get his bill through.

Back to square one in the Tory Euro forever war.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:04 pm 48 abstentions, apparently, so Sunak needed Labour votes to get his bill through.

280 Tory votes for, which is enough to have won the vote without opposition votes, given that only 544 in total voted. But by all accounts the tone from the forever Brexit Wars people wasn't encouraging for Sunak.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 4:12 pm Back to square one in the Tory Euro forever war.

Parafascist trying to stir up his own "Stab in the back" legend for the 21st century.

Spoonman wrote:

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed Mar 22, 2023 2:43 pm Only 29 rebels in the end.

Six of that will be DUP MPs, so 23 max plus abstentions.

Edit: According to the Beeb, there were 22 Tory rebels, and it includes certain names you'd expect...

Adam Afriyie
Sir Jake Berry
Peter Bone
Sir William Cash
Sir Christopher Chope
Simon Clarke
Richard Drax
Sir James Duddridge
Sir Iain Duncan Smith
Mark Francois
Jonathan Gullis
Adam Holloway
Andrea Jenkyns
B***s Johnson
David Jones
Danny Kruger
Craig Mackinlay
Dr Matthew Offord
Priti Patel
John Redwood
Jacob Rees-Mogg
Liz Truss

I think it's absolutely fair to describe this shower of shit as the Enemies of the People - certainly the people of the Northern Ireland.

The rump of the ERG, plus Big Dog's merry band can muster a total of 22.

No 30p Lee?

Bit awkward for the deputy party chair to go against the whip. Besides, I suspect Anderson's one of those who only really believes in what's in it for him personally now.

Good point

In the likely event that I’m missing something re the NI vote; the media seem to simply saying “Richie Rich won the vote, everything in the garden is rosy”. Now to me I doubt as much attention to the details has been give as there was to the “Oven Ready” version, just getting your mates to agree doesn’t necessarily solve the problem. All it seems to have done is altered some things a little bit. We still have the problem of the DUP intransigence, that’s not going away, there is still the issue of Stormont not sitting and the inter community tensions that come with that

As far as the London-based media are concerned, Northern Ireland only really matters when something's exploding in your face. As for power sharing, the DUP are the only ones who get any airtime and every other party is either a bunch of traitors or wimps.

So for them the big story is that the ERG have been temporarily neutered, and Sunak's chances of survival have gone from nonexistent to infinitesimal. Everything else is foreigners being awkward.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:22 am The rump of the ERG, plus Big Dog's merry band can muster a total of 22.

‘Big dog’ seems to have finally been revealed as a flea-ridden chihuahua on stilts

Mrs A choked on her biscuit.

Watchman wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:43 amNo 30p Lee?

He is too busy planning the 333,333 meals that his GB news salary will buy him.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:40 pm Mrs A choked on her biscuit.

If that's a euphemism, I'd like to be the first to perform the Kenneth Williams face.