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Sounds like Braverman will get the second seat there, sadly.

I like the unattributed quote they’re all but saying people don’t like having dinner with her.

Is Windsor a great seat for her? Doubtless a huge majority to keep Corbyn out, but a few citizens of nowhere, you’d think.

Youngian wrote:

Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:36 pm Oh ha ha ha, ho ho, ha ha ha!

She might not be male, white and over 60 but I can still relate to Braverman as a typical Tory voter.

"Gammon in spirit" I call it.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:34 pm Sounds like Braverman will get the second seat there, sadly.

Be shocked if she didn’t. Even doddery old Powellites would give Swellin a pass.

Still, losing to Flick Drummond in the first seat will be quite funny. Norman Lamont failed to get selected for his successor seat in 1997, but the Lib Dems gained it anyway.

Edit- that's actually harsh on Drummond who seems like one of the saner backbenchers, with interest in a few policy areas. I'll be pleased if she defeats Braverman.

Without comment, except that this is the type of person who selects Tory MPs...

Business as usual for disgraced former Trade Secretary Dr Fox

The former cabinet minister Liam Fox has been criticised for lobbying the prime minister on behalf of a business group that pays him £1,000 an hour.

Fox, a former trade secretary, is the chairman and a “commissioner” of the Global Britain Commission, whose members include representatives of the banking industry group UK Finance, the private bank Coutts, Heathrow, Virgin Atlantic, Forth Ports and others. It is expected to pay him £6,000 for six hours of work over the past six months.

https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... commission

Six grand for six hours "work". At least the cunts aren't telling us "we're all in it together" this time.

Are they nasty, stupid or both?

Christopher Chope (yes, him) has sPoke hiS brAnes - any nurse who leaves their job should be made to repay the full cost of their training...

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/politic ... e-the-nhs/

Quite apart from the fact that that would be flirting with indentured labour, ie slavery...

Nursing is a good (though very tough) job. It’s one of the best jobs available in lots of areas. But lots of people in those areas who could probably do it, aren’t confident enough to try. They’ll be even less likely if they face paying training costs back.

If you were remotely interested in social mobility, why would you suggest this?

Marc François has announced to the world that he 'isn't stupid'.

Discuss:

Stupid, not necessarily.

Cretinous, posturing, Philistine, strutting and braggart are all accurate and available.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:03 pm Stupid, not necessarily.

Cretinous, posturing, Philistine, strutting and braggart are all accurate and available.

Nah. I'm still going with "stupid".

Marc Francois giving yet another example of why I regard Tories as fucking liars.

Yug wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:41 pm Marc Francois giving yet another example of why I regard Tories as fucking liars.

The biggest reason to regard Tories as fucking liars? Theyare fucking liars.

Malcolm Armsteen wrote:Are they nasty, stupid or both?

Christopher Chope (yes, him) has sPoke hiS brAnes - any nurse who leaves their job should be made to repay the full cost of their training...

https://nursingnotes.co.uk/news/politic ... e-the-nhs/

Quite apart from the fact that that would be flirting with indentured labour, ie slavery...

In the case of Chope, clearly it's both.

My youngest daughter is six months into her first nursing job in the NHS, having graduated from York University with around £40K of debt (the bursary was partly reintroduced in time for her final year). She will still have that debt regardless of whether she stays in the profession. That Chope doesn't appear to know this is laughable.

There's no question that she was used as an additional free labour resource by York and Harrogate hospitals during years 2 and 3 of her course. Furthermore, having been in the thick of it during the pandemic, the lack academic and pastoral support from the university was an utter disgrace - and all for £9K a year. I was a huge supporter of higher education from my own experience as a student 40 years ago and from working in a Russell Group university for a number of years but her experience has completely changed my view.

Does Chope realise where his beloved private health care providers gets their nurses from

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 1:01 pm

In the case of Chope, clearly it's both.

My youngest daughter is six months into her first nursing job in the NHS, having graduated from York University with around £40K of debt (the bursary was partly reintroduced in time for her final year). She will still have that debt regardless of whether she stays in the profession. That Chope doesn't appear to know this is laughable.

There's no question that she was used as an additional free labour resource by York and Harrogate hospitals during years 2 and 3 of her course. Furthermore, having been in the thick of it during the pandemic, the lack academic and pastoral support from the university was an utter disgrace - and all for £9K a year. I was a huge supporter of higher education from my own experience as a student 40 years ago and from working in a Russell Group university for a number of years but her experience has completely changed my view.

That's an insane level of debt for something including, as you say, lots of free work for the NHS.

Sam Freedman thinks that the government needs to reduce debts for people who do teacher training in view of the shortages (recruitment is again disappointing), but that the Treasury won't allow it (or as I call them, Conservative Chancellors of the Exchequer).

The same with bells on for nursing, I'd have thought.

Don't stop me now.

No, actually, do.

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Is this a sign of more sanity?

The rotten apple doesn’t fall from the rotten tree, it seems