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Boiler wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:32 am Wut?

https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2021/0 ... ailty.html

I had a hunch he was a reactionary shit.

MisterMuncher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 2:02 pm

kreuzberger wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 1:51 pm It is fair to say that some people are not born consciously gay.

For some, it is a realisation which dawns later, and chiefly after being married to Sarah Vine for a while.

Ted Cruz no longer has the stupidest beard in politics

But Sarah Vine’s not in politics, she writes…..oh

Cyclist wrote: ↑Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:40 am Once a shit, always a shit. This leopard hasn't changed his shorts:

He used a racial slur to refer to black people and made derogatory comments about gay people.

A source close to Mr Gove said the comments had been made in jest and did not reflect his own views.

In 1987, Mr Gove then president-elect of Oxford University's debating society took part in an inter-university debating competition in Cambridge.

Speaking in favour of the motion "this house believes that the British Empire was lost on the playing fields of Eton", Mr Gove used a racist term to describe black people, which was met with a shout of "shame" from a member of the audience...


...In other comments, Mr Gove spoke about then Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, saying: "We are at last experiencing a new empire, an empire where the happy south stamps over the cruel, dirty, toothless face of the northerner. At last Mrs Thatcher is saying I don't give a fig for what half the population is saying, because the richer half will keep me in power. This may be amoral. This may be immoral. But it's politics and it's pragmatism."

And he discussed homosexuality, describing the economist John Maynard Keynes as a "homosexualist" and saying "many of us are familiar with the fact that homosexuals thrive primarily on short-term relations"....


...In one speech he made a sexist joke about Lucy Frazer, then the head of the Cambridge Union who was hosting the debate and who is now the prisons minister, and said she had "done remarkably well coming as she has done from the back streets of the slums of Leeds"...


...In a statement, the Muslim Association of Britain said: "Michael Gove's comments are a window into the real ideology that animates a powerful cross-section of the Conservative political class.

"No wonder the Conservative party is in the state it's in today with regards to Islamophobia when its leading politicians hold such racist views."

Liberal Democrat Chief Whip Wendy Chamberlain said: "Michael Gove should be ashamed that he ever thought these things, let alone said them.

"These inappropriate and racist remarks are not befitting of a government minister, not befitting of a journalist, in fact not befitting of anyone....

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58562820

He and Sarah Vile were made for each other.

How did young Pob look more of a nonce than his current self?

He looks like the Nazi from Raiders of the Lost Ark.

Thatcher wank boy…..

‘Many hold Gove responsible’:

The Guardian holds an interview with Sir Tim Brighouse on the UK's education system.

Crikey Chaps, Gove appearing on the right side of a scrap.

Cladding: Michael Gove to vow to pursue firms behind safety problems

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59923121

Party leadership election followed by general election?

Cyclist wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:48 pm Party leadership election followed by general election?

I doubt that's Gove's wish, not with his polling.

mattomac wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:39 pm Thatcher wank boy…..

Squealer

Oboogie wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 7:00 pm

Cyclist wrote: ↑Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:48 pm Party leadership election followed by general election?

I doubt that's Gove's wish, not with his polling.

Something like this is bound to improve the Slithey Gove's image, at least among the less discerning members of the electorate (and there's a shedload of them out there). It might not help him with a leadership contest but it will improve his chances of getting re-elected when the time comes. All those flat owners grateful for having the cost of replacing the cladding on their buildings underwriter by the government. Dodgy cladding companies grateful for him sending a toothless superannuated poodle after them so they don't suffer any real consequences. That must count for something.

I’ve never had any money on Gove wanting the keys to No10, despite what his ex would have liked. He’s always struck me as afraid of what was entailed, although we ended up with a cretin anyway, and Gove hasn’t exactly made a success of previous briefs, plus his association with DomCum

Better to be the cardinal than the king. He's done stuff under Cameron and May that would have got other people fired and deselected. Yet he survives.

He's not stupid. He knows that it's better to be permanent than loved or hated.

He's still a relatively young man, in traditional political terms, only 54. Might not be a bad idea to let somebody else eat the ERG shit sandwich in the shorter term.

Also, I don't think he particularly cares about Brexit divergence. Could we get in a few years time where negotiating away these trade barriers becomes a natural Tory position again? Gove up before the CBI basking in having boosted business?

Problem Gove has is people know who he is and don’t like him as opposed to say most of the others who suffer because people don’t know who they are.

Not sure any new leader would go to the polls, I can’t see any guarantee of a good majority because they’ve all sort of had their hands in the till.

There best chance is Jeremy Hunt frankly.

Hunt and Sunak have formed a non-aggression pact according to the Mirror. Go on, make Liz leader

One MP said: “There is a lot of manoeuvring going on to keep Liz off the final ticket.

“Many of our members are dotty enough to vote for her and we would end up with a worse leader than we have now.” https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/ ... p-25891961

I reflect that cladding might be Gove's raft off Brexit Island.

It seemed like a jolly wheeze for popularity and relevance once.
Then big boy Boris barged in at the front of the queue and got the prize.
Now Govey risks being stranded with a bunch of ERG loons for company.

Doing something small, unique (to his party) and worthy might be his ticket back to the front pages.

What could possibly go wrong?
If he upsets the party's massive pro-developer lobby, he could find himself on the even smaller "has-been Island with Clarke, Hammond and Soames.

Ultra safe seat. I imagine he'd be happy as party kingmaker whether in government or in opposition.

I did think he sees himself as kingmaker/Machiavelli/Richelieu type, encouraged by DomCum, but now he’s a busted flush, in his own little world