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Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:44 pm
by Youngian
Crabcakes wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 12:23 pm
Not even particularly looking this morning and I’ve seen 2 polls with Labour over 50% of the vote and double the Tory share, and a staggering map of the U.K. showing almost universal regret over brexit.
That’s an unusual direction to happen as people accept paradigm shifts and repaint their horizons within the new realities. However hard you try that with Brexit its a dead end.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:07 am
by Youngian
Kipper crackpots Vs Free market fruitcakes.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:14 am
by Bones McCoy
"Breather", I hadn't noticed.
This from the party debating how to force retirees back to work.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:24 am
by Yug
Why would Tory backbenchers panic over someone demanding policies that drive growth?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:17 am
by Abernathy
Surely it isn't possible for Truss to "comeback"??
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:11 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
With this lot of polecats anything is possible.
John Redwood wants to disinter Thatcher.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 11:21 am
by Watchman
Summon up Thatcher? Wasn’t there something in the papers today, about Satanists gathering in Suffolk?
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2023 1:22 pm
by mattomac
This lot do wonders for those with imposter syndrome.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:43 am
by Crabcakes
Abernathy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 10:17 am
Surely it isn't possible for Truss to "comeback"??
Apart from anything else, she’s barely been gone long enough for it to qualify as a comeback. I’ve had trips to Tesco that outlast her ‘exile’.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:44 am
by Tubby Isaacs
I’ve had trips to Tesco that lasted longer than her reign.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 12:50 pm
by Crabcakes
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 11:44 am
I’ve had trips to Tesco that lasted longer than her reign.
We’ve ALL had trips to Tesco longer than her reign*!
*inc. Tesco local

Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:27 pm
by Andy McDandy
Back in the 1990s, when CGI really took off, several previously big film stars of the 1980s faded as studios realised that a) most of the money was going on the effects, and b) audiences didn't care who was being chased by the tornado/tidal wave/asteroid, so you could save a bit of money there. Besides, film protagonists were now survivors, rather than heroes. We'd half expect Arnie to punch out Godzilla, but the likes of Matthew Broderick were much more relatable.
Magazines such as Empire suddenly had stars such as Bill Pullman/Paxton, Maria Pitillo, Mira Sorvino, Tea Leoni and David Duchovny gracing their covers. Good actors all, but hardly your classic "big names". It was just that time and place. In that environment, character actors flourished, there was an emphasis on innovation, and as a phrase I particularly like puts it, it was the time when the alternative became the mainstream.
So, how does this relate to Liz Truss? Put it this way - remember Demi Moore? Had some big hits, then tried to be the big name, and flopped miserably. Suggesting she was carried as far as she got by the quality of her co-stars or scripts rather than by any innate talent or bankability.
That's Truss.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:31 pm
by Abernathy
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:27 pm
remember Demi Moore? Had some big hits
Oh, big
hits .........
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 3:57 pm
by Andy McDandy
Thanks Abers, you never disappoint.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 6:05 pm
by Youngian
‘If it was sensitive and in context, would you do a movie with your clothes on?’ Dennis Pennis once asked.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 7:35 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 1:27 pm
Back in the 1990s, when CGI really took off, several previously big film stars of the 1980s faded as studios realised that a) most of the money was going on the effects, and b) audiences didn't care who was being chased by the tornado/tidal wave/asteroid, so you could save a bit of money there. Besides, film protagonists were now survivors, rather than heroes. We'd half expect Arnie to punch out Godzilla, but the likes of Matthew Broderick were much more relatable.
Magazines such as Empire suddenly had stars such as Bill Pullman/Paxton, Maria Pitillo, Mira Sorvino, Tea Leoni and David Duchovny gracing their covers. Good actors all, but hardly your classic "big names". It was just that time and place. In that environment, character actors flourished, there was an emphasis on innovation, and as a phrase I particularly like puts it, it was the time when the alternative became the mainstream.
So, how does this relate to Liz Truss? Put it this way - remember Demi Moore? Had some big hits, then tried to be the big name, and flopped miserably. Suggesting she was carried as far as she got by the quality of her co-stars or scripts rather than by any innate talent or bankability.
That's Truss.
Interesting analogy.
Truss seemed to have one hit- she got the International Trade job and saw the potential in it. The relatively unambitious Liam Fox and Anne Marie Trevelyan doubtless worked their way through their red boxes and made calls, as one in a middling-low Cabinet post might. Truss straightaway saw the political potential for herself, and the need for Brexit "successes", hence a phone call to the Governor of South Carolina could be trumpeted like it was TPIP. That got her the top job.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I know, let's go on party funding.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:22 pm
by Youngian
Are the unions receiving funding from the Kremlin? The Tories don’t do that one anymore.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 9:58 pm
by RandomElement
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Feb 03, 2023 8:12 pm
I know, let's go on party funding.
Looking at the replies to that tweet, it didn't go exactly how the Tories thought it would but was not a surprise to anyone else.
Re: Conservatives Generally
Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2023 10:46 pm
by mattomac
I think we’ve sort of reached a paradox where it is best they don’t mention this, one Union it sort of works potentially.
When the whole country is wobbling and half the sectors are out on strike it hurts them, it is who governs in not so many words.
People want action from their government and they get this.