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Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Not worth it at all. You’d need to change the constitution.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:51 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:26 pm
Not worth it at all. You’d need to change the constitution.
Not necessarily. A different Supreme Court might well define 'a well organised militia' rather differently, after all the present shitshow is not what the founding fathers had in mind.
But that would also require constitutional change to limit the tenure of Supreme Court judges - an idea which seems to be gaining some traction.
Don't tell the Americans but bits of the constitution were very badly drafted...
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:32 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I'm not sure. Certainly, pre-Heller (2008) there was a legal framework much more tolerant of gun control locally. But there were still, by our standards, and incredible amount of guns about in lots of places. You certainly didn't have to be a member of a "militia" to own one. With the second amendment in place, you won't get British gun control.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:14 pm
by Andy McDandy
Two words: Volstead act. Two more: Eighteenth amendment.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:19 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
That's the sort of thing, although reading some US sources there is rnough leeway in the 2nd Amendment to considerably alter its presence in law. E.G. you can have an assault rifle so long as you are actually part of a well organised (official) militia.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:41 pm
by Abernathy
The problem seems to be the quite untrammeled political power of the National Rifle Association, which seems to be on perpetual alert to mobilise against literally any move to impose even the most modest of restrictions on gun ownership.
All it would take would be the political will to take on and defeat this immensely powerful vested interest group. The second amendment is obviously utter bollocks in the context of the 21st century. But it’s very difficult to see where that political will is coming from, if it’s ever coming at all.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:29 pm
by Oboogie
Breaking: Judge fines Donald Trump more than $350 million, bars him from running businesses in N.Y. for three years
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald ... rcna135283
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Alabama here, totally rational.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 9:51 pm
by Abernathy
You know this . . .
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 11:44 pm
by mattomac
They look dead…
Others would say that’s a bad thing, some would think it would solve a few problems. I of course could not possibly comment.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 2:27 am
by Bones McCoy
Meanwhile, American derangement syndrome escalates.
Stand with Trump; Fund the $355M Unjust Judgment
https://www.gofundme.com/f/stand-with-t ... settlement
My name is Elena Cardone and I am a wife of Grant Cardone, mother and an ardent supporter of American values and an advocate for justice, I stand unwaveringly with President Donald Trump in the face of what I see as unprecedented and unfair treatment by certain judicial elements in New York.
The recent legal battles he faces are not just an attack on him, but an attack on the very ideals of fairness and due process that every American deserves. It's a moment that calls into question the balance of justice and the application of law, disproportionately aimed at silencing a voice that has been at the forefront of advocating for American strength, prosperity, and security.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 8:02 am
by Samanfur
Considering that GoFundMe takes a dim view of crowdfunding defence or fines for felons, that should be gone fairly quickly.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 12:51 pm
by Bones McCoy
I'll never cease to be amazed by ordinary Americans tying themselves in knots to justify corporate abuses.
The American Dream is one thing, but surely few believe "One day I'll be the CEO of Enron / Trump / Madoff".
What kind of rube is rub-ey enough to donate $50 to a billionaire?
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2024 8:51 pm
by Youngian
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2024 10:27 pm
by The Weeping Angel
I doubt this will get six articles in the NYT.
https://www.aol.com/donald-trump-calls- ... kJqnCDXkDm
Former president Donald Trump called Melania ‘Mercedes’ as he praised his wife during a speech in Washington DC.
The crowd at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) gave the former First Lady a standing ovation as Mr Trump described how “people love her”.
“Oh look at that Mercedes, that’s pretty good” he said as the audience stood and applauded.
The GOP presidential hopeful was making the keynote speech on 24 February on the same day as voters head to the polls in the South Carolina primary.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:03 pm
by Crabcakes
Starting to think the Biden age thing is backfiring on Trump. In pushing it, he’s increased the scrutiny on his own incoherent ramblings and come up with equally incoherent reasons to explain them. Whereas Biden’s team have (sensibly) started to just drop him into normal situations where he comes across as a normal guy. An old guy, sure, but clearly in charge of his faculties.
His appearance on Seth Meyer was sharp, funny and punchy. And even if it was scripted or autocued, that shows he can follow a script or read an autocue. Both things Trump struggles with, and god forbid he gets to ad lib.
And there’s also a widely under-reported factor that Trump is winning his GOP primaries but underperforming in terms of vote share as to what’s expected - in some cases by up to 20%. Whereas Biden/democrats are overperforming.
Obviously I won’t feel entirely happy until the race is called for Biden, but I just get a sense the momentum has shifted and that the (US) media - or parts of it at least - are cranking out a narrative of a tight, exciting fight when that’s not looking like what may happen…
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 4:46 pm
by Andy McDandy
https://www.thepoke.com/2024/02/27/maga ... said-them/
No idea if, given the source (Jimmy Kimmell is a late night comedy show host) the people here are actual members of the public, or actors. But if the former, the level of disconnect and double standards is disconcerting.
Short version - people were vox-popped and asked their opinions on quotes from Trump, but falsely attributed to Biden. They were overwhelmingly negative. Then, when told the source of the quote was actually Trump, they very quickly started excusing or praising the sentiments expressed.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:05 pm
by Yug
An American version of:
Nationalise the railways.
Good idea
Jeremy Corbyn wants to nationalise the railways.
What a stupid idea.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:49 am
by Crabcakes
And at least that had some context - I didn’t want Corbyn to nationalise the railways because I knew he’d do it in a ham-fisted way. But these are just bad things that they immediately excuse. It’s frightening how much they don’t know, and then when they do know don’t care.
Re: Over in America...
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 12:42 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Even for Missouri Republicans this is going too far. They're trying to keep him off the ballot.