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Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 8:02 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:20 pm
We have a winner. Matthew Goodwin's qualification is "coming from an ordinary background".
I'm not putting it up because some random Twitter bloke said it, but because Goodwin seems to make a lot of this himself. Is it any more "ordinary" than Woke Lefty Elitist Sir Keir?
Outside of moaning about white working class boys being held back by woke teachers what has he written about social mobility?
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:39 pm
by MisterMuncher
I fucking despise the idea that there's something inherent to the working class that makes them incapable of empathy toward minorities and those in the various demographic fringes. It's snobbish, reductive, patronizing bullshit and anyone espousing it is a deeply suspicious individual who, in any sane universe, would be placed in a mail bag and beaten soundly with a hurl.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2022 10:49 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
True story.
When I was a kid (about 15, just starting to go to the local, very working class* boozer) a Black family moved into our street. Dad's name was Ben. He went to the aforementioned pub, where the assorted Londoners, Irishmen (all in the building trades) and others (some with rather shady occupations) welcomed him warmly, and the landlord (Irish) got in his favourite rum (Liquid Sunshine - he gave me some). Tell me about the working classes and welcoming newcomers.
* I once saw someone come in and start haranguing a bloke who was playing dominoes. Player didn't answer, he just got up, threw the haranguer into the carpark through the unopened window and sat back down to finish his game. Also a true story...
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2022 6:12 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Alas, now that Goodwin is on the pay roll, we probably won't hear his wisdom on such policies as prioritising tax cuts for the richest in the current climate. Doesn't seem to fit into his idea of the "reallignment", or "left on economics".
How does this fit into social mobility?
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:24 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Down with identity politics! Real issue is social class!
And anyway, as pointed out BTL, this reflects the Tories having been in power a long time, and also having been dysfunctional. If they'd been like a conventional political party, Cameron would have stepped down in about 2019, and Osborne or May would be party leader now, and the current crop of non white males would be in relatively junior Cabinet roles, if that.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 4:36 pm
by Youngian
Identity politics featuring people who few identify with. James Cleverly comes across as an amiable individual on a personal level but the rest are a bunch of freaks who identify with Rees Mogg.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2022 9:32 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Someone BTL refers to Cameron's A list, which was the "bloody woke bollocks" issue of its time. Patel and Truss came through that, as well as some rather puzzling people like Conor Burns. Matty rather awkwardly says "Um, I do recall some criticism".
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 1:17 am
by mattomac
Odd that they’ve never had a female chancellor, all that time in power.
In fact I might be incorrect but has there ever been a shadow chancellor that is female before Rachel Reeves, who will if Labour win the next election no doubt be made Chancellor. It’s a bit depressing for politics that this is the case really.
Anyhow I assume he is wanking over Sweden whilst ignoring…
Australia, Germany, Norway, USA most of central and South America including potentially Brazil later this year, though Bolosarno is hoping his attendance this week at the funeral will help him.
That could be an early headache for monarchy and Truss if he does do what some are suggesting and launches a coup on his defeat as President.
“Yeah you invited a guy who is now trying to turn Brazil into a military dictatorship”, though it’s not like they haven’t had forewarning on this.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:06 am
by Andy McDandy
The right's view of South America is basically Argies and assorted generalissimos and drug barons. As long as he remains over there and doesn't land troops at Stanley, they won't care.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2022 8:42 am
by Watchman
Don’t forget Maggie’s hero, Pinochet
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 7:51 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Don't worry Liz Matt has the solution to your problems
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 8:47 pm
by Youngian
A scourge of liberals but has very little to say about Truss’s ultra liberal economics.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 9:05 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Braverman isn't on the frontline now? If Truss has any authority, she'll be sacked soon, having pissed all over Truss's proposed India deal.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:33 am
by mattomac
It is literally all they have anyhow.
The problem is it’s easy when every else seems to be fine but it becomes difficult when something so tiny goes wrong, then really no one cares about which statues you are going put a wall around.
I’ve noticed it on twitter, you’ll get one bloke trying to counteract but it’s poor, some haven’t realised that they are no longer the “majority” they once believed they were.
And for a second week running it seems like the QT audience are openly laughing at them.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 6:24 am
by Youngian
Gammons have had no idea what you’re talking about it when discussing who the real Brexit bankrollers are; libertarian globalist free market zealots. They won’t be opening new hospitals in Doncaster and they’re main view on immigration is the right for bosses to pay them less. The penny appears to be dropping.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 4:12 pm
by The Weeping Angel
More pearls of wisdom from Matt
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 5:48 pm
by mattomac
Is it going be led by Matthew Goodwin?
I refer to the cartoon above what it’s only policy is going be.
Looking at the polling including his I assume people are mainly fed up with one party, of course that’s the party he seems squarely behind so let’s start the new party talk.
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:34 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ha ha ha ha.
Labour lead by miles. "People are fed up with left and right".
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:40 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Where's Johnson's vote gone "walkies" to, Matt?
Re: Matthew Goodwin
Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:35 am
by mattomac
That would be fine if the DKs were high but they aren’t, Labour are seeing crazy numbers on switching even in his own polling.
Goodwin won’t accept that his red wall narrative which is flimsy at best could and looks likely to fall at its first real test which is the next election, See also Sebastian Payne who wrote a book and comes out with the most garbage of takes.