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Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 11:48 am I'd lost touch with the way that the media have marginlized the soft brexiteers who wanted to retain some semblance of sanity.

Amersham hasn't. I think the Tories have already calculated its nativist strategy would cost them in some southern marginals. But by how much? Johnson no longer even has the economics to appeal to right of centre liberals.

I think what we're seeing is partly due to the 24 hour news culture.

Think about it - who is it that's watching daytime news discussion shows? Phoning up talk radio? Stumbling out of Spoons at 10.00 into a vox pops crew? Not people with 9-5 jobs. It's the retired, the unemployed, the unemployable, the lonely and the insane. By no means all retired people, or all unemployed people, but they're the ones whose voices are being heard.

They're people who are convinced that anyone younger than them is a slacker, who are fuelled by resentment of anyone with anything they might not have (be it money, a god job, a partner etc), who cling to ideas that "back in the day" people did "proper jobs", that kids today don't know that they're born, and that it's someone else's fault that they never amounted to much.

And they're presented as the mainstream.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:29 pm And they're presented as the mainstream.

All 35,000 tuned in to the Andrew Neil Show.

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:36 pm

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:29 pm And they're presented as the mainstream.

All 35,000 tuned in to the Andrew Neil Show.

Before Gammon trended, Engels popularised a name for them.
Lumpenproletariat.

Lumpenproletariat is more the underclass and industrial gypsies. Petit bourgeois would be Engels’s observation of GBNews.

Lumpengammontariat, surely?

Actually a good agreement on data protection has been struck.

I'm not saying this is a bonus or anything, but I'll take this in the current climate.

Youngian wrote: ↑Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:51 pm Lumpenproletariat is more the underclass and industrial gypsies. Petit bourgeois would be Engels’s observation of GBNews.

I was thinking more of the viewership.

In this instance I think I prefer lumpentwats.

Scores on the doors from Sweden. John Mann would probably say "Great, we'll make it all at home!"

Media very excitable today about Nissan plans to open a battery manufacturing operation in Sunderland. Any news about Nissan has usually been announced as plans by Nissan in a corporate press release the previous year, as this was. Car batteries are a rare case of not being viable to import en masse under any scenario even in a frictionless single market.

We have a winner. "Plucky challenger lands a headbutt on the champ's right fist".

Brilliant negotiating here. We signed up to X, so give us something else and we'll actually do it.

Some say they're just flailing about, but this genuinely might have been a Frosty plan.

The original is paywalled in the Telegraph, but it sounds quite something from David Allen Green's response. Big Vern Bogdanor showing that his bad judgement didn't end with his praise of David Cameron on election night 2010.

https://davidallengreen.com/2021/07/are ... rebellion/

Progressive theologians seeming to be like trendy vicars or lefty lawyers. Clever fuckers who disagree with us.

What the heck was that bit about Israelis and Kurds? Israelis have a nation state, Kurds don't. How are either of them like Unionists?

Surely even the dimmest Express reader can’t buy this as a Brexit win

Take that EU! British haulier to exploit Brexit loophole after EU rejects UK demands

Haulage boss Robert Hewett bought a new depot in the Netherlands after Brexit to continue his business but found out his drivers could not drive them due to not having EU-registered driver's licences. He has since found a loophole in the European Union's rules to train his drivers in Ireland to keep his business running. This is expected to cost him a total of £130,000.

Speaking to BBC Panorama, Mr Hewett said: "We thought we've invested £3.5million by buying a facility in Europe to overcome the Brexit thing and be ahead of the game and then this hit us. https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics ... Cfgj6ThDvI

Hah! Take that! Paying £130,000 extra for fucking no reason at all, hah!

Morons doesn't even begin to cover it.

Frost’s negotiating brilliance obscured by cultural misunderstanding. This guy is the Telegraph’s Europe editor