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I understand Ms Braverman is a bhuddist. Even more of a shrieking disconnect between her faith and her behaviour than had she been, like other Tory hypocrites, a Christian, surely ?

I think Gary Gibbons on Channel 4 News got it about right when he said Sunak can't sack her right now because it will make it look like re-appointing her was a poor judgement on his part, but it is very likely that she will go in the near future,

Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 7:18 pm I understand Ms Braverman is a bhuddist. Even more of a shrieking disconnect between her faith and her behaviour than had she been, like other Tory hypocrites, a Christian, surely ?

A point I made elsewhere, but the general pacifism of traditional buddhism was called into question.

Should be noted that she belongs to a modern sect, much accused of sexual abuse including that of children...

And no, I am not joking.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... dhist-sect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triratna_ ... _Community

You may ask yourself if Sue Ellen actually lives these precepts:

The founder, Sangharakshita, taught a system of practice emphasising five types of meditation. The first two according to his system ('integration' and 'positive emotion'), can be correlated to the traditional category of "calming" "samatha" practices, and the last two (spiritual death and spiritual rebirth) can be correlated to "insight" or "vipassana" practices. For those not ordained into the Triratna Buddhist Order, the practices associated with the first two are emphasised, though the spirit of the last two is also taught.

The five types of meditation correspond to five 'stages' of the spiritual life.

• Integration. The main practice at this stage is the mindfulness of breathing, which is intended to have the effect of "integrating the psyche" – improving mindfulness and concentration, and reducing psychological conflict.
  
  Positive emotion. The second aspect of samatha is developing positivity – an other-regarding, life-affirming attitude. The Brahmavihara meditations, especially the 'metta bhavana' or cultivation of loving kindness meditations, are the key practices intended to foster the development of positive emotion.
  
  Spiritual death. The next stage is to develop insight into what is seen to be the emptiness of the self and reality. Meditations at this stage include considering the elements of which self and world are thought to be composed; contemplating impermanence (particularly of the body); contemplating suffering; and contemplating sunyata.
  
  Spiritual rebirth. Triratna teaches that, with the development of insight and the death of the limited ego-self, a person is spiritually reborn. Practices which involve the visualization of Buddhas and Bodhisattvas are among the main practices in this phase. At ordination, each dharmachari(ni) is given an advanced visualisation meditation on a particular figure.
  
  Receptivity and spontaneous compassionate activity. The practice associated with this phase is known as 'Just sitting' or 'formless' meditation. Outside of meditation, this is the phase of 'Dharmic responsiveness' - doing whatever needs to be done in any situation.

I imagine that every religion has its "B&Q on a Sunday and feel superior to others" brigade.

I think today just might be the lowest I have ever felt about the future of this country. Tomorrow will probably beat it.

Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a philosophy.

If you claim to follow a philosophy and then don't follow the philosophy you're a bit of a cunt.

I am a follower of the Way of Mrs Cosmopolite.

I think that Sunak might well be thinking that he has painted himself into a dreadful corner with Leaky Sue and recognises that he needs to get her to fuck. But he can’t do it now, or he’ll undermine his own credibility even more than he has already. I expect him to try to let things calm down for a bit (which won’t happen if Keir & Yvette have anything to do with it), give ger enough rope, then cut her loose in about a month.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:33 pm I think that Sunak might well be thinking that he has painted himself into a dreadful corner with Leaky Sue and recognises that he needs to get her to fuck. But he can’t do it now, or he’ll undermine his own credibility even more than he has already. I expect him to try to let things calm down for a bit (which won’t happen if Keir & Yvette have anything to do with it), give ger enough rope, then cut her loose in about a month.

I suspect Sunak will try and muddle through to the end of the year, hope for a quiet few weeks, and maybe try to replace her early next year if things still look bad. And even if he did sack her, Sunak would almost certainly have to bring in another ERG loon just to keep that particular group placated. The entire party seems beholden to the same 50-60 extreme eurosceptic headbangers.

Which was Johnson's plan. If you can't be king, be a kingmaker. And if not that, a regicide.

“Leaky Sue”….sorry, but every time I read that I immediately think of the feminine hygiene aisle in Boots

Watchman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 7:59 am “Leaky Sue”….sorry, but every time I read that I immediately think of the feminine hygiene aisle in Boots

Braverman's incontinence is oral.

Arrowhead wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:50 pm

Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:33 pm I think that Sunak might well be thinking that he has painted himself into a dreadful corner with Leaky Sue and recognises that he needs to get her to fuck. But he can’t do it now, or he’ll undermine his own credibility even more than he has already. I expect him to try to let things calm down for a bit (which won’t happen if Keir & Yvette have anything to do with it), give ger enough rope, then cut her loose in about a month.

I suspect Sunak will try and muddle through to the end of the year, hope for a quiet few weeks, and maybe try to replace her early next year if things still look bad. And even if he did sack her, Sunak would almost certainly have to bring in another ERG loon just to keep that particular group placated. The entire party seems beholden to the same 50-60 extreme eurosceptic headbangers.

Braverman won’t damage the Tories further while a bit of diphtheria and scabies may even reward them a few points. Ramp up racism and culture war and the Tories might stabilise in the early 30s. They’ve little to entice any other demographic outside of their baseline vote.

Tax rises, pay squeezes, triple lock going, public service cuts - yeah, about the only silver lining for some people will be the thought of others having it worse.

Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:31 am Tax rises, pay squeezes, triple lock going, public service cuts - yeah, about the only silver lining for some people will be the thought of others having it worse.

I would say the real votewinner is telling them the Other People are having it better - and guess who's paying?

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:15 am

Arrowhead wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:50 pm

Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:33 pm I think that Sunak might well be thinking that he has painted himself into a dreadful corner with Leaky Sue and recognises that he needs to get her to fuck. But he can’t do it now, or he’ll undermine his own credibility even more than he has already. I expect him to try to let things calm down for a bit (which won’t happen if Keir & Yvette have anything to do with it), give ger enough rope, then cut her loose in about a month.

I suspect Sunak will try and muddle through to the end of the year, hope for a quiet few weeks, and maybe try to replace her early next year if things still look bad. And even if he did sack her, Sunak would almost certainly have to bring in another ERG loon just to keep that particular group placated. The entire party seems beholden to the same 50-60 extreme eurosceptic headbangers.

Braverman won’t damage the Tories further while a bit of diphtheria and scabies may even reward them a few points. Ramp up racism and culture war and the Tories might stabilise in the early 30s. They’ve little to entice any other demographic outside of their baseline vote.

There are two ends to the Braverman stick, and I think Sunak is stuck in the Television commissioner's dilemma.
(I'll explain)

Braverman's antics regarding refugees will chime with many of the 25% who are still polling for the failing Tories.
They will also deter many, who recently switched away, from returning.
If Sunak's happy running at or around 25%, then he should keep Braverman etc.


The television commissioner's dilemma is similar.
Your successful series that reached 3% of the viewing public has just ended (and 3% is considered good figures these days).
Do you:
a) Commission a second series, or something remarkably similar and hope to retain the 3%.
or
b) Try something different in an attempt to reach the 97%.

Abernathy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:33 pm I think that Sunak might well be thinking that he has painted himself into a dreadful corner with Leaky Sue and recognises that he needs to get her to fuck. But he can’t do it now, or he’ll undermine his own credibility even more than he has already. I expect him to try to let things calm down for a bit (which won’t happen if Keir & Yvette have anything to do with it), give ger enough rope, then cut her loose in about a month.

I think he’d like to style it out, but events are overtaking him. And by ‘events’, I mean the ever-growing list of incidents of incompetence, arrogance and outright hostility from Braverman. If she really did try and only send asylum seekers to Labour constituencies, that’s going to absolutely blow up.

She pissed Truss about egregiously. If anyone else had been leader, she's have been out on her arse quicker than Truss herself was.

If Sewagella is really a Buddhist, I dread to think what she’ll come back as next time round

If my understanding of karma is correct she'll probably come back as a bluebottle and spend her next life eating shit. Get a taste of her own medicine.

In order to repair her karma she should, according to mainstream Buddhism, adhere to the Noble Eightfold Path, this is not optional, it is the central premise of the philosophy:

The eight practices in the Noble Eightfold Path are:

Moral Virtue
1) Right View: our actions have consequences, death is not the end, and our actions and beliefs have consequences after death.

2) Right Resolve or Intention: the giving up of home and adopting the life of a religious mendicant in order to follow the path, away from cruelty (to compassion).

3) Right Speech: no lying, no rude speech, no telling one person what another says about him to cause discord or harm their relationship.

Meditation
4) Right Conduct or Action: no killing or injuring, no taking what is not given, no sexual misconduct, no material desires.

5) Right Livelihood: no trading in weapons, living beings, meat, liquor, and poisons.

6) Right Effort: preventing the arising of unwholesome states, and generating wholesome states, the Seven Factors of Awakening.

Insight and wisdom
7) Right Mindfulness: a quality that guards or watches over the mind; the stronger it becomes, the weaker unwholesome states of mind become, weakening their power "to take over and dominate thought, word and deed."

8) Right samadhi practicing four stages of dhyāna ("meditation").

I leave it my pals here to judge whether or not Sue Ellen is building good karma. What stage of the eightfold path is she at?

As to what she is reincarnated as, most likely a disadvantaged person who will have many challenges to overcome in their next existence. In effect, one of the people she is persecuting. That's karma.