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Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:09 am
by Youngian
Starmer’s never had a proper job. Aaron’s been spending time with his new mates on GBNews. What would a former state prosecutor know about government at the highest level?
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 9:27 am
by Dalem Lake
And what sort of a career did the sainted Corbyn have outside politics? FUCK ALL! Yet that's enough for him to be considered fit to run Britain by the likes of Bastani.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 10:40 am
by Tubby Isaacs
Corbyn was passionate about Education and Health, but he'd never been a teacher or a nurse.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:31 am
by Malcolm Armsteen
I don't know about health but he never made any sensible contribution to any debate on education.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:47 am
by Andy McDandy
He's for it, I assume. Law of ridiculous reverse applies.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:01 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
If he is for it, it seems perverse that he has availed himself of so little of it.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:31 am
I don't know about health but he never made any sensible contribution to any debate on education.
He was in favour of bringing all schools back into LA oversight and abolishing Ofsted. Whether LAs want or these schools back or to take over from Ofsted, is another question.
Beyond that, I don't know. I suppose everything fixes itself because accountability. Lots of leftwing people don't really bother with policy beyond that. I've got more time for academies than I did have because local accountability is fine with lots of bad stuff, like dumping all the poor kids in one school.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2023 12:39 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Those aren't the big issues facing schools, that's about budgets, DfE interference, staff retention, teacher training and much more.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:37 pm
by Crabcakes
Slightly off topic (but sadly, only slightly), I can recommend the 2-part Origin Story podcast on the history of Zionism. I learned a lot, and a lot of it was surprising too.
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/o ... 0618863154
https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/o ... 0619512519
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:33 pm
by Youngian
Most of the Israeli founders like David Ben-Gurion were secular socialists and it was a distinct possibility in the late 40s that Israel would become an NAM state leaning towards the Soviet camp like Nehru or Castro. The whole geometry of the Cold War liberationist left would have been turned on its head. Corbyn and George Galloway would be wearing St David’s Star badges as nation liberation symbols while the PLO would be seen as CIA financed lick spittles.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:16 pm
by Crabcakes
Looks like Jez has come up with a cracking wheeze to get out of his awkward ‘now I’m deselected I might be turfed out of my cushy seat’ problem - stand as London mayor, and fuck over the vote share of someone who’s been doing a great job in difficult circumstances.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 77313.html
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:39 pm
by Abernathy
The difference between Livingstone running successfully as an independent candidate in 2000 and Jezza attempting to emulate that in 2024 is that Livingstone already had a very popular public profile in London from 5 years leading the GLC. Umpteen years as a troublemaking backbencher/hopelessly duff failed Labour leader isn't quite as good a platform.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:49 pm
by Watchman
And I guess he would wave goodbye to the Golders Green vote
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 3:55 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
I really don't think he would.
He didn't like the pressure of being a very inactive LOTO, he'd come apart under the stress and scrutiny of being mayor.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 5:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Me neither. Khan has his own profile, not least being more Remainer friendly. Assuming there's no no enormous high profile exodus from Labour, Jez will struggle for presentable supporters. Good luck with doing "Real issues NATO" with Lindsey German in a high profile campaign.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:06 am
by Youngian
Have the Tories done away with second choice voting for London mayoral elections? If so then a Corbyn candidacy would just be bitter spite on his part.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:29 am
by Youngian
Comrade Bastani is reinventing himself as Voltaire liberal contrarian. A Kipper Tim Farron
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:38 am
by Youngian
Liz wins Twitter this week
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:29 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Jez was doing his "you're spending £50bn on Defence, what are you doing for peace?" in the Commons the other day.
This Imagine stuff isn't going to win the London mayoralty, though it's a better bet than the full "respect Russia's sphere of influence" stuff.
Re: Continuity Jez
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:09 pm
by Crabcakes
Always amazed that defence spending isn’t seen as peace spending. Granted, I don’t want proliferation of nukes. But pretending if we have no military then would-be ne’er do wells will simply respect our pacifist stance, give up their own arms and join us in starting a solar-powered vegan restaurant is utterly deluded. Plus we know Corbyn’s definition of ‘peace’ is very selective, and for some people would be indistinguishable from outright capitulation to a dictator.