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He says the UK is ahead of the EU, Australia, America and Japan in cutting emissions.

File under "write that on the top of your GCSE paper and see how it goes".

The UK has done relatively well in percentage terms, but it's on track to miss its targets already.

Another step taken towards pariah status, ever since that ship started boarding on 23 June 2016.

It's all linked and entirely unnecessary.

He mentioned Sweden earlier. Sure, the rate of change is the most commonly cited measure. But Sweden emits less than we do, so it's had less far to go and is doing it a bit more slowly. Not quite what he was implying.



.https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emiss ... er-capita/

As an aside, how useless are the Lib Dems. The Climate Change Act was about the biggest achievement of the Coalition, and no way would we have got that without them being in government and insisting they had that post. No need for "we were like Greece" bollocks. stick up for this achievement.

Fuck me, there's a lectern with a new slogan on it.

Of course it’s about fucking politics. It’s about nothing else.

Again, this ludicrous trope that “politics” is some sort of separate world (see also :”playing politics”), rather than something that permeates literally every aspect of human life and society.

What utter pish.

"Stop making up shit", says Tory MP.

Sunak tried to make it look like we were unncessarily ahead of other countries on phasing out petrol cars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out ... l_vehicles

2030 isn't at all uncommon as a target- Germany, Netherland, Denmark, Belgium, Greece. Some haven't yet set a target beyond signing the Glasgow Declaration but probably will- eg Spain. The more countries that commit to 2030 or thereabouts, the better. The UK has just provided them with a nice talking point in not doing so.

Here we are. It's solidify the base stuff.

An exclusive poll conducted by FindOutNow for Channel 4 News has revealed more than 40% of people would be less likely to vote Conservative in the next general election if the government does not stick to its commitments on climate change.

The poll of more than 2,000 people asked voters, if the government does not stick to commitments it has already made to climate change, would you be more or less likely to vote for them at a general election?

12.3% of voters, said they were now more likely to vote Conservative.

But 40.7% of people asked said they would be less likely to vote Tory.

Of those who voted Conservative at the last election, 26.8% said they would be more likely to vote for them again

But 21.4% said they were less inclined to vote for Rishi Sunak’s party.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:18 am Time to open a state subsidised Brexit Trabant factory to churn a new generation of diesel cars. Perhaps Lord John Mann and Larry Elliot could sit on the board.

This is why it's a cynical bullshit move. They can unban petrol and diesel all they want, but companies are already transitioning and it simply doesn't make economic sense to keep one factory each going for RHD ICE cars. If they aren't available, it doesn't fucking matter if they're banned or not.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 5:13 pm It’s all building up to a can’t be arsed charter. Can’t be arsed to recycle? Fine. Can’t be arsed to get a new boiler? No worries. Can’t be arsed to think any further than ‘bloody immigrants’ as to who’s to blame for the country’s problems? Got you covered. Can’t be arsed to get a car that doesn’t chuff out toxins? All good.

Lazy, selfish bollocks. Fits perfectly with the mindset of a man happy to let hospital and train strikes drag on because he needs neither. They just don’t care. Not one iota, about absolutely *anything*.

Yeah, replace Homer Simpson with Sunak here and the slogan still fits...

I dare say that this may well have been inevitable, given that Sunak seems still to be in thrall to the swivel-eyed nutjobs of the former “European Research Group”, who, having achieved the destructive Tory hard Brexit they so relentlessly craved, as well as having blackmailed Sunak into keeping the appalling Braverman at the Home Office, have now pivoted to a new strand of political vandalism, in the form of the “Net Zero Scrutiny Group”. Same destructive reactionary shit, same cunts, different name :
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisf ... n-policies

A new Tory faction is ‘scrutinising’ net zero – with tactics learned from Brexit

Hoyle can't control the class, but he gets a lot of shit for stuff he can't do, like "just stop them lying". Note that even in response to this tweet, people show up BTL to have a go at Hoyle.

Argentina?! This seems to be production rather than consumption. I venture China does a fair bit better if you measure consumption.

That’d go well on a Lib Dem election leaflet.

"Roasted Owl", that would have been right up my street.

Again, if we are going to get pissy about four-and-twenty-blackbirds, let's knock off the turkey. (And please don't mention the tordo which turn up in a rural Italian mixed-grill.)

Abernathy wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 8:58 pm That’d go well on a Lib Dem election leaflet.

"Argentina can't win here"

I guess the inclusion of Argentina is some effort to get the gammons fired up and patriotic as we're doing better than the old enemy.

Shame it comes across like Bob Hoskins at the end of the Long Good Friday, boasting to the departing Americans that he doesn't need them because he's made a new deal with "the krauts".