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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 12:42 pm
by Boiler
Watchman wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:44 am And NO MASK, it’s a fucking hospital you halfwit
Seems people only see what they want to see...


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Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:14 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Voting against No Deal- instant suspension of whip. Not allowed to stand at next election unless you promise to vote for Johnson's shit deal.

Working 22 hours a week outside Parliament for a year, and fucking off to the Caribbean taking advantage of pandemic voting rules- matter for the voters.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:22 pm
by Samanfur
The BBC has footage of him being handed a mask and putting it on, after attempting to elbow-bump nurses without one.

It doesn't look as though he anticipated wearing one, or being asked to wear one.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:35 pm
by The All New KevS
"We're in the shit here, initiate Markle Distraction"

"Markle Distraction initiated"

"Is it a success?"

"Er....partially"


Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:58 am
by Cyclist
UK is not a corrupt country, says Boris Johnson


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-59238464.amp

He's absolutely right. The country is *not* corrupt. Just the Party that's currently 'leading' it.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 2:49 pm
by mattomac
It’s got more amusing the longer that went on, blathering on checks and balances that he tried to overturn only a week ago.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:41 pm
by Samanfur
Samanfur wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 1:22 pm The BBC has footage of him being handed a mask and putting it on, after attempting to elbow-bump nurses without one.

It doesn't look as though he anticipated wearing one, or being asked to wear one.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 5:13 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Anyone seen Guy Operman, Tory MP for Hexham?

I think he ought to take a side in this. Local NHS Trust or Bozo? Pick a side.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:53 pm
by The All New KevS
Good heavens.


Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:05 am
by Boiler
The All New KevS wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:53 pm Good heavens.

And when is the next GE? :roll:

Mid-term dissatisfaction, nothing more. Sunak will lob some tax cuts out there in a couple of years' time to please the faithful, Labour will lose again and KS may well be looking for a new job.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:39 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Sunak's got some more very noticeable NI rises to kick in soon, plus (assuming he was serious) corporation tax cuts.

How do you get from there, with Brexit, to "things have gone so well, we're cutting taxes"?

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:46 pm
by Boiler
Just watch. A GE is three years away.

For most of the population, Brexit has *possibly* just meant the minor inconvenience of a few empty spaces on the shelves of Waitrose or M&S.

Nowhere near the calamity people were forecasting.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:07 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
This may not be the Tory winner they think it is. "Stealth tax" for starters, and a few middle class parents might see it as a tax rise on them.


Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:25 pm
by Boiler
No-one is now willing to address the "sacred cow" that is the pension triple lock.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:11 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I quite like the idea of Sir Keir increasing the threshold by quite a bit, so that people who borrow to study and don't hit pay dirt don't pay very much back.

He'll probably stick with the Jez free fees policy though.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:15 pm
by Youngian
Boiler wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:25 pm No-one is now willing to address the "sacred cow" that is the pension triple lock.
The state pension is measly compared to the rest of Western Europe. It would be even lower if they didn’t deliver for a Tory Party that could find votes elsewhere to cross the line.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:21 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Youngian wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:15 pm
The state pension is measly compared to the rest of Western Europe. It would be even lower if they didn’t deliver for a Tory Party that can’t find votes elsewhere to cross the line.
Comparisons of pension rates between countries aren't straightforward, because the systems vary so much.

https://fullfact.org/europe/pensioners-eu-uk/

I prefer concentrating more on pensioner incomes, but as it says there, lots of pension credit goes unclaimed.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:41 pm
by Dalem Lake
Tubby Isaacs wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:07 pm This may not be the Tory winner they think it is. "Stealth tax" for starters, and a few middle class parents might see it as a tax rise on them.

From further down in that twitter thread
The Government case will be that it’s fair for grads and taxpayers.

A Whitehall insider: “It is a fairness argument. Normal working people, a lot of whom do not go to university and benefit from student loans, are paying for this."
What sort of argument is that? There must be 1000s of grants,programmes, schemes, loans etc, that comes from government and benefits some people and not others.

Divisive twats.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The original fairness argument was that you borrowed money and paid it back when it helped you earn lots. Changing the rules so that you pay back money when you don't earn much isn't very fair.

Re: Alex Johnson - worst prime minister ever?

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 6:34 pm
by Bones McCoy
Let's try "Normal working people, who aren't MPs and can't flip their second home or emply their family are paying for this".