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Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 6:50 pm
by Boiler
Andy McDandy wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 6:47 pm
Too bad Tim, with his amazing political nous and insight, never thought of going into politics himself.
Some of us remember Tim on Usenet...

(specifically, uk.railway)
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:17 pm
by kettle
Amateur hour. I can't decide if this is contempt for the public or just incompetence. "Angela has been promoted. No I don't know where to but she's been promoted."
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:23 pm
by davidjay
Anonymous on there reminds me of someone...
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 pm
by Arrowhead
Boiler wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:13 pm
That has brought a smile to my face.
The socialist revolution starts in Chipping Norton
Some very good results for Labour down in Worthing, too.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:28 pm
by Youngian
Arrowhead wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 pm
The socialist revolution starts in Chipping Norton
The Blue shed has been breached
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:29 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Arrowhead wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 pm
Boiler wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 5:13 pm
That has brought a smile to my face.
The socialist revolution starts in Chipping Norton
Some very good results for Labour down in Worthing, too.
Citizens of nowhere who can't afford Brighton?
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:32 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
kettle wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:17 pm
Amateur hour. I can't decide if this is contempt for the public or just incompetence. "Angela has been promoted. No I don't know where to but she's been promoted."
Lots of the Shadow Cabinet is a promotion on Chairman, I suppose.
But need to do any of this while Sadiq was still on stage.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Rachel Reeves named as Shadow Chancellor.
Angela Rayner to Shadow Duchy of Lancaster to shadow Gove.
Annelise Dodds to Party Chair
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:54 pm
by RedSparrows
Youngian wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:28 pm
Arrowhead wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:14 pm
The socialist revolution starts in Chipping Norton
The Blue shed has been breached
Let's put this through The Narrativiser.
Is This The End For The Tories? Disconsolate Tories Lick Wounds After Tory Town Replete With A Blimp Restaurant Resupply Platform Votes Labour In Historic Electoral Earthquake
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:54 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Sounds like Anneliese Dodds is moving, though still in the Shadow Cabinet. She did some good work, beating Sunak to punches. But she wasn't particularly effective on the budget though- even if LOTO makes the speech in response. Ought to have been easy enough to make the "no new taxes till the economy has recovered properly" ought to have been an easy enough position from the word go. Talking of the budget, how depressing was it to see people fall for "the Tories are to the left of Labour" because they briefed out something about corporation tax rises? Sunak actually cut business taxes in the shorter term. Who knows if the rises will even happen?
I hope Starmer isn't expecting another Shadow Chancellor to make more of an impact. Lots of people didn't know who Philip Hammond when he was the actual Chancellor.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:58 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:50 pm
Rachel Reeves named as Shadow Chancellor.
Angela Rayner to Shadow Duchy of Lancaster to shadow Gove.
Annelise Dodds to Party Chair
Hard to argue that's not a promotion for Rayner. Would have put her at Communities, but not a bad call.
Fair play to Dodds for taking one for the team. But would have kept Reeves where she was.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:59 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:54 pm
Sounds like Anneliese Dodds is moving, though still in the Shadow Cabinet.
See above.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 9:59 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Thangam Debbonaire to Shadow Leader of the Commons. Will face Rees-Mogg.
Alan Campbell to Chief Whip
Wes Streeting - new Child Poverty role.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:08 pm
by Arrowhead
Malcolm Armsteen wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 9:59 pm
Thangam Debbonaire to Shadow Leader of the Commons. Will face Rees-Mogg.
Alan Campbell to Chief Whip
Wes Streeting - new Child Poverty role.
I wonder why Nick Brown lost his job? I always got the impression he was pretty good overall.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:09 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Good job for Streeting. Seems to be a bit of a bete noire for some, but he does get his head down on policy stuff and smart.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:10 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Nick Brown is 70, so won't be around forever.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:13 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Arrowhead wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 10:08 pm
I wonder why Nick Brown lost his job? I always got the impression he was pretty good overall.
I believe he was. He said it was a 'mutual decision' - as he's been there so long. The chance to bring in new faces.
Annelise Dodds - some think she was in post as a gesture to McDonnell (she was on his team) and this
may reflect his waning influence.
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:14 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Interesting...
Not Blair, but Brown?
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:15 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Keir Starmer sacked his shadow chancellor on Sunday night and promoted his close ally Rachel Reeves to the role, moving Anneliese Dodds to the back office role of party chair, in a move set to further inflame tensions with the party’s left.
The left were saying Dodds was to the right of Sunak 5 minutes ago,
Re: Labour, generally.
Posted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:16 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Big ally of Gordo doing strategy. Suits me.