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I'm old enough to remember the Tories claiming Jim Callaghan had crashed the economy. Jim managed to get by without sending for his lawyers.

Crabcakes wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:33 pm On the one hand, this is obviously hilarious that Liz is so arrogant and thin-skinned she is literally incapable of accepting people pointing out that she did the thing she did. On the other, it’s so insane and detached from reality that it’s very arguably the work of someone who is quite clearly mentally ill, potentially has paranoid delusions that it was some shadowy cabal rather than her and her chancellor’s rank ineptitude, and it’s disturbing that lawyers will take money from someone in that situation.

Dead on, Crabbers. That Truss is mentally disturbed seemed also to be the view of someone opining on Times Radio a bit earlier on. Thick Lizzy also seems not to understand that in taking this action, she is also manifesting an egregious instance of The Streisand Effect *

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:08 pm Nigella Farage.

There won't be many safe Tory seats up for grabs in the next GE so how Truss get back in the game, Mayor of Norfolk? Hopefully never.

Only if Norfolk wants to confirm every stereotype.

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 2:38 pm I'm old enough to remember the Tories claiming Jim Callaghan had crashed the economy. Jim managed to get by without sending for his lawyers.

You don't even need to be that old. From 2010 very nearly all the way until 2024, the Tories (including Nick Clegg, Danny Alexander, and Vince Cable) repeated endlessly the egregious lie that Labour profligacy in government was to blame for the effects of the global financial crisis of 2008 (and used it as cover for the imposition of economic austerity). Not a word of any legal letters from Labour - though they should have done a much better job of the rebuttal of that lie.

Ah, but that was just the rough and tumble cut and thrust of practical politics and if you can't stand the heat get the hell off the surface of Venus etc.

Bones McCoy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:37 pm

Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:08 pm Nigella Farage.

There won't be many safe Tory seats up for grabs in the next GE so how Truss get back in the game, Mayor of Norfolk? Hopefully never.

Only if Norfolk wants to confirm every stereotype.

At the rate she’s going, she’ll declare that Liz II told her she wanted her to take over and declare herself Queen.

Also, I’m starting to think a lot of this is being driven by her sense that she didn’t get her fair share. It’s not about the policies or reputation. It’s that she only got 2 months of the paid for country pile, getting to choose new lecterns, meeting important people for nice dinners, and having people listen to her because they had to.

She just can’t cope with going from top billing to fringe event B lister so fast.

Last weekend the I had Kwasi Kwarteng as one of its guest columnists*. At one point he commented on Reeves' situation, saying "and as one who has been resident in number 11 and managed the treasury, I know....". Cue a clarifying note that he was CoE for a grand total of 38 days.

I suspect you're right, and like Jonathan Gullis,. they were told it was a ticket to easy street, all receptions and the Lucrative US Lecture Circuit (TM). Now they're looking at cruise ships and panto in Cleethorpes.

*Nadine Dorries as well. I can only assume all the usual columnists were at a party or something.

World’s stupidest woman strikes again:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -are-fixed

I imagine the one and only fix she actually wants to see is for it to become a crime to mention the fact she was outlasted by a lettuce.

The Times "left wing"? Fuck a duck.

She exhibits more and more symptoms of delusional paranoia.

Trouble is, she really is saying what other people are thinking.

Today I think I've reached breaking point where I'm going to have to step away from damaging habit of following the news and the parallel universe of right wing fuck wittery from the likes of Truss and the massed ranks of despicable hard right commentators. Most people I know are oblivious to it and are all the better for it.

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:42 pm Today I think I've reached breaking point where I'm going to have to step away from damaging habit of following the news and the parallel universe of right wing fuck wittery from the likes of Truss and the massed ranks of despicable hard right commentators. Most people I know are oblivious to it and are all the better for it.

Are there support groups for news junkies? I do go cold turkey sometimes or wean myself off slowly by sticking to science, engineering, nature and dog stories.

Is that fixed as in repaired or fixed as in pre-determined?

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:24 am

Rosvanian wrote: ↑Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:42 pm Today I think I've reached breaking point where I'm going to have to step away from damaging habit of following the news and the parallel universe of right wing fuck wittery from the likes of Truss and the massed ranks of despicable hard right commentators. Most people I know are oblivious to it and are all the better for it.

Are there support groups for news junkies? I do go cold turkey sometimes or wean myself off slowly by sticking to science, engineering, nature and dog stories.

I've tended to read Reuters and then go about my day.

Liz, let it go.

That can't be genuine, can it? She posted that with her name next to (by far) the steepest spike?

Great commitment to free speech there.

Also, the letter isn't kryptonite. It doesn't stop anything, just says "carry on like this and we'll take action". And as said by many people, her claim is ludicrous.

The Streisand Effect still in full operation.

I’m starting to think someone at Tufton Street is egging her on, fully aware she’s making an arse of herself and is too vain/stupid to realise.