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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 6:51 pm
by Bones McCoy
You have to laugh when the opportunity is this good.

Donald Trump Walks Onstage to a Brooks & Dunn Lyric About ‘Going to Prison’

https://tasteofcountry.com/donald-trump ... to-prison/
Former President Donald Trump walked onstage to a topical -- and eyebrow-raising -- line in a Brooks & Dunn song during a gathering of GOP 2024 presidential hopefuls in Des Moines, Iowa on Friday night (July 28.)

Like all the candidates who spoke at the rally, Trump walked out onstage to "Only in America," the country duo's sweeping 2001 ode to possibility and the American dream. The song's lyrics marvel at the infinite life paths available for citizens of the U.S.A., but they took on new meaning when Trump strode across the station just as the recording played the lyric, "One could end up goin' to prison / One just might be president."

That those exact lyrics were playing as Trump took the stage was apparently coincidental -- "Only in America" is a popular choice of walk-out music for campaign events of all description, on both sides of the political aisle -- but it was certainly a little on the nose, considering Trump's current legal woes.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 7:48 pm
by Abernathy
Just watched Krishnan Guru-Murthy on C4 news interviewing some belligerent Barbie-clone Trump supporter. Absolutely horrific. Didn’t catch her name. Trump has done nothing wrong , absolutely nothing. The Democrats, on the other hand, are in league with Satan, corrupt as hell, and are trying to stitch Trump up (I paraphrase, but not that much).

Fucking terrifying.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:51 pm
by Boiler
Yebbut Hunter Biden :roll:

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:09 pm
by Abernathy
Boiler wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:51 pm Yebbut Hunter Biden :roll:
Why do so many Americans insist on giving their offspring surnames as first names?

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:55 pm
by kreuzberger
Posh sweaties. They are all at it.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 3:07 pm
by Boiler
Abernathy wrote: Fri Aug 04, 2023 2:09 pm
Boiler wrote: Thu Aug 03, 2023 8:51 pm Yebbut Hunter Biden :roll:
Why do so many Americans insist on giving their offspring surnames as first names?
Not sure, but I have certainly seen family names used as middle names in this country - I was at school with someone whose middle name was Beresford.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:25 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Good article on the Democrats chances of winning this year's governor's race in Mississippi

https://www.vox.com/politics/23807436/m ... s-governor
JACKSON, Mississippi — Mississippi isn’t that Republican.

Although Republicans have a monopoly on statewide office and supermajorities in the state legislature, Mississippi is a lighter shade of red than outsiders might think. It has been consistently easy in recent years for Democrats to get up to 45 percent of the vote here, but nearly impossible for them to top 50.

“In Mississippi, if you’re winning by double digits, that’s a real blowout,” said Austin Barbour, a longtime GOP strategist in the state.

Of course, close doesn’t count for much in electoral politics. But that history of close top-of-the-ticket races in the Magnolia State — combined with a compelling Democratic candidate and a not terribly popular Republican incumbent — means that this year’s gubernatorial election has become one of Democrats’ top targets in an odd year.

In 2023, their hope is that Brandon Presley, a longtime elected public service commissioner from the northeast corner of the state with a fondness for Diet Mountain Dew and folksy aphorisms, can somehow break their streak and win the state’s odd-year gubernatorial election. To do so, Presley would have to beat incumbent Gov. Tate Reeves, who has a formidable war chest and a well-oiled political machine, but who is also tarnished by scandal and has one of the lowest approval ratings of any governor in the country.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:49 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I think there's very little chance, sadly. Only chance you get somewhere like that is with a very unpopular Republican president. Would be surprised if it was closer than 2019, which was 52-47.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2023 8:54 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Courtesy of Jonathan Portes, that Ol Miss economic stardust. Don't know if that downturn is continuing, but Tate Reeves looks relatively good (on the back of Biden money).

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Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:24 am
by Philip Marlow
I doubt anyone here will need convincing, but it's a nice summation the man's activities.


Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:38 am
by Bones McCoy
I've only recently seen analysis of how close Jan 6th came to overturning the election.

For a non-American, much of the coverage has been fragmented, poorly explained and focused on the flags and cosplayers.
Few of us know the minutiae of the Constitution.
We fail to appreciate that behind the televised shitshow lay a pretty detailed plan.
Probably too detailed, which is why it unravelled.

Some of the stuff is well known, other stuff has only recently been explained in detail.
So here's what I have to date:
1. Big crowds prevent Biden's confirmation by "taking out" (make of that what you will) Mike Pence - He's important, I'm not sure why, but I don't know the constitution.
2. Fake electors, impersonators designed to overturn the electoral college.
3. Representatives ready to reinstate Trump in the "emergency" of Pence being removed.
4. Trump now has authority to mobilise the armed forces to disperse any counter-coup protests.

That seems to be the big picture, before you factor in attacks on the integrity of the count, and Trump holding back any federal response to the storming of the capitol.

It speaks of a deep organised plot, rather than the standard narrative of old orange face flapping his chops and a bunch of yahoo militianos going loco.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm
by Boiler
Would the armed forces have done what Trump told them to do, though? I'm led to believe their duty is to the Constitution, not the President?

From where have you gathered this analysis, Bones?

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:15 pm
by Bones McCoy
Boiler wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 2:03 pm Would the armed forces have done what Trump told them to do, though? I'm led to believe their duty is to the Constitution, not the President?

From where have you gathered this analysis, Bones?
I've been watching a few democrat leaning YouTubers.
In the run in to the court appearance they've pulled their threads together, and explained the more esoteric details in an easier to follow manner.

The bit about the armed forces is quite subtle, and had flown over my head until I saw it explaiend.

Once they've accomplished their first three goals:
1. "Hung" or otherwise remove Mike Pence.
2. Something about fake electors.
3. Plants within the house propose an emergency measure to maintain Trump in power because "Emergency".

At that point Trump's the constitutional C in C again.
He would have the power to use martial law measures against any protestors objecting to the power grab.

It's alleged the MAGA crowd referred to these emergency powers as the "Kent State Option".
In usual tasteful terms this references the national guard shooting of protestors known as the 1970 Kent State Massacre.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:53 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Point 3 is what indicates a planned coup.
I hope they flay the bastards.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:04 pm
by Boiler
Thanks, Bones/Malc.

If you sit back and think quietly about it... it's really rather terrifying, isn't it?

More to the point; could Trump really have planned this or are there other "bad actors" at play here? And yet here we are with the very real prospect he could be POTUS again.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:52 pm
by The Weeping Angel
Glenn Greenwald is and always will be a shit


Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:00 pm
by Boiler
Dear Lord... :shock:

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:07 pm
by Bones McCoy
Boiler wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 4:04 pm Thanks, Bones/Malc.

If you sit back and think quietly about it... it's really rather terrifying, isn't it?

More to the point; could Trump really have planned this or are there other "bad actors" at play here? And yet here we are with the very real prospect he could be POTUS again.
Trump ain't the branez of the outfit.
I'd imagine that whatever passes for Tufton Street supplied the planning capacity.

There's a lot of fingers pointing at Guiliani and a gaggle of other Repub leaning lawyers.
There's something in the charges about "six others".

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:09 pm
by Bones McCoy
I don't recall "Trump can do all the crimes" being a foundation of democracy, or a key principle of the founding fathers.

Re: Over in America...

Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2023 6:50 pm
by Boiler
Is it okay to be scared about something far away?

Because I am...