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Wasn’t long ago Labour was worried Sunak might be a slick suited managerial grownup moving the Tories into the centre ground. But he’s gone further down Kipper rabbit hole of madness.

More Musk than Bill Gates.

Youngian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:06 pm Nice guy Rishi still has currency so weak and unfit to lead would sound better than nasty bastard.

You know what I'm bloody furious about this when Labour did it's ad we had nothing but outrage and discussions on the BBC, SKy et cetera but this nothing, just nothing and it makes me bloody furious.

Youngian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:10 pm Wasn’t long ago Labour was worried Sunak might be a slick suited managerial grownup moving the Tories into the centre ground. But he’s gone further down Kipper rabbit hole of madness.

Apparently considering a cunning move to abolish inheritance tax. Osborne’s magic rabbit was to raise the threshold only, and he was in opposition.

Could fact check this but I’ll take a punt which one is making shit up

Sunak's turning into another Johnson, but with tidy hair.

After Corbyn won his second leadership election, most opponents decided to stay silent or give loyal support so defeat was solely down to him.
Maybe that explains why senior Tories are going full Kipper, let the headbangers own the electoral disaster.

That or hang onto a few seats by going full righty and making sure Fargle can't outflank them.

The Tories could turn things around if inflation and interest rates fall so banks are taking less money off mortgage payers. Pointing at banks and shouting woke doesn’t seem to be doing the trick.

Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:22 pm The Tories could turn things around if inflation and interest rates fall so banks are taking less money off mortgage payers. Pointing at banks and shouting woke doesn’t seem to be doing the trick.

I'm speculating here, but the conservative "thinkers" at the likes of the Spectator raised a massive fuss against the banks after the Truss/Kwarteng debacle.
"Didn't hedge properly" or something.

I wonder whether there's some 4d chess thinking here.
Raise "three strikes" of hostility to the banks: (Pick three from)
* Undermined Truss.
* Wanted you to be poorer.
* Nasty to Farage.
* Put up your mortgage.
* Globalists (Probably a weak point outside the "full regalia - 88" brigade).
* Abolishing cash.
* Won't give you a cheque book.


Then claim that recession, mortgage crisis is
"Nothing to do with us guv, it's the bankers (and their jew puppetmasters) down that Threadneedle street".

Paul Embery played that card after Kwarteng’s budget. It was bad that the economic establishment had stuck it to someone who was rejecting neoliberalism of something.

Youngian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 1:22 pm The Tories could turn things around if inflation and interest rates fall so banks are taking less money off mortgage payers. Pointing at banks and shouting woke doesn’t seem to be doing the trick.

They’ll certainly better than now if that happens. I’ve noticed that interest rates on savings bonds seem to have stopped rising. I’m no economist but that probably means the wider economic prospects are not getting worse, at least.

The trouble with this is that John Major could plausibly say he understood the pain. Sunak can’t.

Sunak blaming Sadiq Khan for house prices in London. Ha ha ha.

Sunak is solving it by…. releasing some money that presumably could have been released before.

I got priced out of London when, oh, what's his name - blond crook - was mayor. Was that his fault then?

Tubby Isaacs wrote: ↑Thu Jul 27, 2023 2:52 pm Sunak blaming Sadiq Khan for house prices in London. Ha ha ha.

Sunak is solving it by…. releasing some money that presumably could have been released before.

Is that the money Sniffer Gove didn’t know what to do with

Good point. Nothing like announcing the same lot of money twice.

I see one of the things Sunak is spending money on is a development next to Old Oak Common station. This project and HS2 could be years further on than it is. How is lack of development there Sadiq Khan's fault?

Another winning policy here, if it goes ahead.

Likely effect is that a load of public money goes on private healthcare that the recipient would have paid for anyway, and which wouldn't have been a priority for the NHS- hence waiting lists don't fall by very much.

Hot on the heels of ULEZ, Sunk turns his attention to LTNs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-66351785

He told the Sunday Telegraph he was supporting people to "use their cars to do all the things that matter to them".

[...]

But critics, including some Conservatives MPs, argue they harm the freedom of motorists and push traffic onto other roads, causing congestion.

I’m wholly car dependent* and no kids to contract asthma but Sunak can still go fuck himself. Patronising wanker.
* Apart from travelling into large urban areas. Hello, park and ride.